Subject | Re: spreadsheet ergonomics |
From | Snit |
Date | 04/01/2017 18:50 (04/01/2017 09:50) |
Message-ID | <D505284A.99338%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
Follows | owl |
Followups | owl (11h & 55m) > Snit |
Hint: show the whole process... how you embedded the windows, how you tied them together, etc. Hey, let us each show that with four tables, all tied together and having simple equations flow through them.owlowlSnit
Nothing bizarre about it at all. It's not much different from your embedded tables, which are also in frames (or whatever Apple calls the containers).
https://vid.me/Al6B
A cool, weird, and somewhat bizarre work around.
What is weird or bizarre about it?
Of course... and they are in windows which are also containers (and they are in sheets and tabs, both of which are containers).Snitowl
Oh, Apple calls them "tables"... because they are, you know, tables. :)
The table is in a container.
Fair enough... but that is to be expected with odd work-arounds, even cool ones.owlThat's the main.sc sheet from earlier, now embedded in a scribus window, and taking data from the other sheets. Editing the other sheets shows those updates in the scribus sc window. Both local and remote editing demonstrated.Snit
It is pretty cool how even in different files they can be connected.
I wish there was more documentation. Or at least more users sharing their experiences online. Figuring out how to do things with sc involves a great deal of trial and error.
Which contains a bunch of files (at least in this case) and they are not in any way treated as a single file once they are in a usable format.owlPrinted docs are static anyway, so it doesn't matter how you get to the result. Documents shared for editing can just share the whole process if necessary.Snit
As opposed to sharing a file
A tarball is a file.
LOL! I am speaking of just letting people easily access and even edit the stuff online. Here:Snitowl
or even sharing it online
Ever heard of X11 forwarding? It works great.
With password protection? If so that is news to me (though I am sure there is a LOT it can do which I am unaware of... remember, have not touched it since the '90s and even then only briefly).Snitowl
(though I think someone needs to have an icloud.com account to use it).SnitAgain, though, nothing wrong with sc and while Numbers does plenty it does not, sc is a MUCH more powerful tool for "real" number crunching (as is even Excel).owl
Why do you say that?
Numbers does not handle very large tables, lacks some functions and formatting, does not allow to lock specific ranges or cells as Excel does (do not know if sc does that but I would not be surprised if it did not),
It does.
And easy (and also why I included adding new sheets in the above)... but lacking in many features / capabilities any "real" number cruncher would need. It definitely is designed for light duty!Snitowl
has less robust import tools, etc. It does have some pretty cool other features, and what it does it does (mostly) well, but it simply is not as complete of a solution. I can show you some of the oddities I have seen with referencing cells from other "sheets" from the same document... still works but has some graphical oddities.
Started to make a video showing some of what I mean... got interrupted by my 9 year old coming to my office to ask me about other stuff... talked to her as I finished the video and then helped her as it was uploading. Did not even bother to redo the video so lot so me just fiddling around but it is only 2:16
<https://youtu.be/pVA0efp0gb8>
Shows me using a real, but very simple, spreadsheet I had open then using a template then one from scratch where I have one table reference another. Do not show different sheets in the same file but that works much as it does in MS Office and LibreOffice.
Pretty.