Subject | Re: spreadsheet ergonomics |
From | Sandman |
Date | 04/04/2017 08:28 (04/04/2017 08:28) |
Message-ID | <sandman-4397c010bde3c77edf85cdc3a457701a@individual.net> |
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Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
PGP | Sandman |
Follows | Snit |
Followups | Snit (9h & 34m) > Sandman |
Your "specific example" is you making an empty claim about the action of another person. You are again confusing "claims" with "substantiation".SandmanSnit's response: *silence*Sandman
What is the quantifiable measurement of my "obsession" this time? Can't be "responses" because you respond to me as much as I do to you. Can't be "mentions" because you mention me far more than I mention you.So what is it, then? In what way can you show me that I am more obsessed about you than you are about me?SnitSnitSandman
If those who troll COLA are not obsessing over me, lying about me, and begging for my attention then why are there so many examples of them doing so?
Unsubstantiated claim #1
It is a direct response to you trolling and doing as I say!
Unsubstantiated claim #1SnitSnitSandman
Seriously, what more "substation" do you need?
Yeah, you know... *actual* substantiation. Instead of that thing you do when you can't support something... What was it... Yes - just make claims using empty words! That's the thing.
So specifics examples proving my point are deemed insufficient to you.
SnitThis is part of your problem: you just make mindless accusations and then demand I work to refute them... ignoring how you were just proved wrong.Sandman
Only, I make claims and I support them. You make claims, full stop. Huge difference.
Ah, so let us talk about one of your tech claims. Show your HTML file with this line:
<div style="padding: 3px; align: center;">
And then explain why you think it would validate correctly. Or explain why it did not have that line when the WBM shows it as having it, consistently, for some time before that date.
I would sincerely love to hear you explain your side of the story. No insults. No accusations. Just a talk of the technology you say you used at the time.I did, at the time, remember?
While I'm sure you have responded to people trolling you, I can't remember having seen any such posts for quite a while. Your response to that Gohde post about your wife would match that. Only, you responded by lying to it, so not sure it really counts.SnitAnd with that, I will let you freak out and troll COLA while I focus, mostly, on tech. You have bored me out of your BS.Sandman
You say "mostly", what percentage of your posts will be trolling then?
Do you count my responding to your trolling and the trolling of others as me, also, trolling?
SandmanSnit
I welcome any initiative from you that makes you focus *only* on tech.
Sure. First we need to understand the two categories almost all my posts fit into:
1) Talking about techApart from during the challenge - a very low amount. But there is no dispute of this definition. If you're talking about tech, you're talking about tech. Sure, sometimes you weave in your trolling agenda slowly and steadily when the topic was tech-related from the beginning. Usually in the nature of small "challenges" for your "opponent".
2) Responding to the trolling of you and othersAgain, this you rarely, if ever, do. Meaning that the only one in the entire group that claims you do this is you. No one else is agreeing with you about this. No one would step in here and say "yeah, Snit may troll now and then but most of the time he is just responding to the trolling of others". So even *IF* you actually believe that is what you do, that doesn't make it so.
If you want me to talk more about tech, then stop yourself trolling me and work to reduce others. Boom. Once I have less trolling to respond to I will respond to less of it.I correct your lies and misinformation about me, remember? Again ALL the posts between you and I after you failed your challenge is a direct result of you posting lies *about me* in posts *not directed towards me*. Where I had to step in and expose and correct your lies and misinformation. I didn't go around reading your posts starting to respond to you just to supposedly "troll" you.
Insult #1SandmanSnit
Why would you want to focus on anything but?
I have answered this question many times: I find the psychology of those of you troll COLA (and elsewhere) to be interesting. Your recent frenzy, for example, has been amazing. I will say it has gotten a bit long and you have sunk to your normal empty-knee-jerk-accusations, but even then it is interesting, on some level to see how predictable you will be.
You have already started using your automated trolling toolsLying #1
(the ones you deny exist but have shown examples of how you use them!)Lying #2
What you will NOT do is actually respond to any real issue, especially a tech one.You'd have to post about tech for me to respond to it. As it is, I am only able to counter your lies and trolling because that's all you do at the moment.
You will also, as you have already stated, just deny all evidence, even direct and specific examples, which prove you wrong and even get to the point of whining I am just copying and pasting text in response to the examples.If you don't want your trolling exposed, stop trolling. Perhaps you should start focusing only on tech instead? How's that for an idea?
You will NEVER admit that the examples I am showing you are, well, what they are. You will lie."Examples" aren't substantiation. When you make a claim that "X does Y" you are free to do so, but without substantiation, meaning a verifiable quote of X doing exactly Y without it being merely your interpretation of X doing Y, then it is unsubstantiated and just empty words.
I tell you these things in the interest of seeing if even knowing how predictable you are will you be able to stop yourself. I suspect no... you will do exactly what I say, or very close to it.I will continue to track and expose your trolling for as long as you keep trolling, yes. If you want it to stop, maybe focus on tech instead?
For trolling.SandmanSnit
Why set up a wiggle room?
For what?
Wait, did you just read what you wrote? Now, if these supposed "trolls" were indeed obsessed with you, why would they need your "responses" to keep "trolling" you? Are you saying that their supposed obsession is dependant on you *responding* to them? I mean, when you started to talk about tech for three weeks, they didn't respond to you, or hardly ever even mentioned you. Yet for some reason you here admit that this supposed "obsession" is a direct result of your interaction with these people.SandmanSnit
Just focus on tech, we know that means that interest about you dies down, it has been shown.
Well, when I respond less to your trolling and the trolling of others those of you who troll do not have those posts to respond to.
No mystery there! But that does not really show your obsession is any less. In fact, when I a month without posting at all I was still the most talked about poster.Unsubstantiated claim #1
Lying #3SandmanSnit
Again, with that pesky thing called 'substantiation'.
It is something you struggle with...
the accuse me of it as you engage in what you call role reversal.Lying #4