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SubjectRe: spreadsheet ergonomics
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Date04/04/2017 05:35 (04/03/2017 20:35)
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On 4/3/17, 7:39 PM, in article a8003gq.bay@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid>wrote:

owl
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>wrote:

Snit
On 4/3/17, 7:15 PM, in article lahuz003.8au33@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid>wrote:

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owl
You whined about dependencies. Numbers is a dependency or the file is worthless.

Snit
Um, what?

Perhaps you do not understand the concept of dependencies?

owl
Perhaps you don't.

Snit
Well, I am sure there are details I do not know... but with the file I am speaking about you need either a modern web browser or the Numbers program.

owl
Numbers requires a Mack. So that's out.

Actually, nope: does not require a Mac at all.

But, sure, it is limited to what OSs you can use and that is a deal breaker for many situations. No argument here. But also not on topic.

Snit
Nothing more (assuming you have those things actually running on your system with all that they need!)

owl
All you need with mine is an ssh client.

Which I have. So let's test yours!

Snit
I mean, sure, to use a program you need that program. To use sc you are pointing to a bunch of other programs one may very well not even have (even on Linux).

owl
So nothing from a Linux repo qualifies as competition for a Mack app because installing it would install dependencies. OK.

Snit
Not sure what word game you are trying to play. Can you get more specific?

owl
Can you? Why whine about dependencies unless they cannot be met?

The point had nothing to do with about them being able to be met. Why even bring that up? It is about the end user having to set their system up to meet them. Two completely different things.

Above you speak of Numbers needing macOS (which is not quite true but close enough). Sure, that is a deal breaker for many situations. I openly admit to the weaknesses of the solutions I talk about. I am honest.

One thing I find interesting about Linux "advocates" is how hard it is for them to speak of the weaknesses of their solutions... even such obvious things as lacking the ability to have multiple tables on one sheet in a way pretty much any user can easily create.

Snit
And even with those other programs to tie into sc and support your scripts, as far as I know nothing comes close to what I have shown you. Your solution surely does not.

owl
No looping updates required. https://vid.me/txC9

The flickering of the "running external function" and other flashing messages and the inability to directly manipulate the data would be annoying for me, but if it works for you, great.

Care to show setting that up, from scratch, as I did with my multiple table solution?

-- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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