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Sandman
SubjectRe: Any Minolta/Sony users using UFRaw and GIMP?
FromSandman
Date04/19/2014 20:42 (04/19/2014 20:42)
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In article <f965l9hrjnns1uub2u16a0821a901fr8rm@4ax.com>, Tony Cooper wrote:

Sandman
This is just another proof for Tony's agenda - Savageduck has *also* voiced pro-Lightroom opinions about how it has made his workflow better, yet Tony didn't respond to Savageduck and claim his earlier methods were ineffective.

Tony Cooper
There's a world of difference between the Duck's comments and nospam's.

Oh, really? Well, let's review. Here's nospam's comment:

nospam Re: Any Minolta/Sony users using UFRaw and GIMP? 04/09/2014 <080420141821121992%nospam@nospam.invalid>

"i'm getting the same (or better) results in *far* less time with lightroom than i ever did with photoshop, and i can still use photoshop for the occasional images that need additional work. overall, it's a huge, huge productivity boost."

Very adult, to the point and no nonsense. let's see your reply:

Tony Cooper Re: Any Minolta/Sony users using UFRaw and GIMP? 04/09/2014 <jp89k99e62mdkgjslu0rih4hbm2o444fo8@4ax.com>

"So, you weren't very good with Photoshop. It's a program for grown-ups, so don't feel badly."

Wow. There is a world of difference allright, but it's not found in the comments from nospam and Savageduck allright. Let's see what Savageduck had to say about Lightroom and its efficiency:

Savageduck Re: Yellow Cast in Lightroom 5 Develop Window 04/17/2014 <2014041710172386373-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>

"There is little which cannot be done in LR. I find that these days I only move to Photoshop from LR5 if I have compositing work, or content aware healing, cloning, patching or third party plugin work which cannot be achieved in LR alone. More and more my usual workflow is pure LR with fewer excursions into PS."

And the reply from you? None, not a comment about Savageduck not being able to use Photoshop since it's a program for adults. Huh.

See - this is where an adult would go "Uh, yeah, you're right, I was out of line responding with insults to a perfectly valid comment from nospam and it is a bit obvious that I treat him differently than others"

Which is why you'll probably snip all this away and pretend I didn't substantiate your agenda... once again.

The Duck provides specific information and in-depth comments about how he uses LR. He posts results of what he does.

Well, good for him! That doesn't mean their opinion and remarks about the programs are "worlds apart", Tony.

nospam thinks *much better* is a specific.

When did he claim that he thinks "much better" is a specific? You just made a claim about what another poster thinks without substantiation.

Some people have credibility, and when that poster says that he thinks X is better than Y, one can assume he has tested both and made that conclusion. The troll thing to do is to claim that Y is for adults and that the poster didn't understand it.

Sorry about the rain during your vacation. I hope you can find something to do inside. Maybe you could visit a few more of the Florida B&H locations.

-- Sandman[.net]