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Re: Any Minolta/Sony users ...

Alan Browne
SubjectRe: Any Minolta/Sony users using UFRaw and GIMP?
FromAlan Browne
Date04/21/2014 15:44 (04/21/2014 09:44)
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On 2014.04.20, 19:45 , nospam wrote:

nospam
In article <jvOdnVF7m_WVFs_OnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>wrote:

the conversions are also not lossless, something which is trivial to prove. make the conversion and subtract from the original. if they're identical, the result will be zero, which it definitely is not, and on an image i randomly picked, it's noticeable without subtracting.

Alan Browne
Post before and after shots and the subtraction.

nospam
the random image was one i shot a month ago at a dance performance and it's not for public consumption. one performer in the image was holding a guitar and that is where the visible change was. there was also some minor differences on her clothing.

So find a photo in your vast photographic repertoire that you can share without embarassment and post the results.

You're really in "walk the walk" territory now.

the key is that anyone who claims converting to lab is lossless is mistaken.

Alan Browne
Name each process step from start to finish.

nospam
open image, duplicate (image/duplicate), convert to lab and back to rgb in the second image (image/mode) then subtract (image/calculations). look at the histogram to see the extent of the changes.

Fine. I did exactly that with 2 other images and posted them.

No visible difference in either case.

So now it's up to you to show us a difference.

Walk the walk nospam.

-- "Big data can reduce anything to a single number, but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude." -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

PeterN (17m)