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Re: Calumet files Chapter 7

PAS
SubjectRe: Calumet files Chapter 7
FromPAS
Date03/26/2014 14:04 (03/26/2014 09:04)
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"PeterN" <peter.newnospam@verizon.net>wrote in message

PeterN
On 3/25/2014 9:36 AM, PAS wrote:

PAS
"PeterN" <peter.newnospam@verizon.net>wrote in message

PeterN
On 3/24/2014 10:33 AM, PAS wrote:

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PAS
The U.S. Constitution does not give any authority to the federal government to compete with private business. The founders were distrustful of government, and rightly so. The Constitution is designed to LIMIT the power of the federal government.

PeterN
You got it backwards. the Constitution is designed to grant certain limited powers to the Federal government.

We need go no further than the "savings clause." the Tenth amendment makes it clear that the federal government has only only the enumerated powers.

PAS
Perhaps it's a matter of semantics but enumerating limited powers to the federal government IS limiting their power which is what the Constitution does. The 10th Amendment does indicate that the federal government is limited to the powers granted to it by the Constitution. "The powers not delegated to the United Stated by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people." To me, this makes it crystal clear the federal government has, for quite a long time, acted unconstitutionally and continues to. The bailouts, the ACA, and a whole host of others are unconstitutional.

PeterN
the Constitution is not to be read literally. e.g. Freedom of speech does not give anyone ot yell "fire" in a crowded theater. Freedom of religion does not give the right to use illegal drugs, or commit bigamy, etc.

The bailout is legal under the Commerce clause. If you fell the government has actd illegally, you have a right to bring an action to stop the action, provided you are harmed by it.

IMO, it is a ridiculous stretch to interpret the Commerce clause as giving the power to the federal government to take taxpayer money and invest in businesses. The Commerce clause is for regulation, not investing. Yes, we were all harmed by the unconstitutional action - the taxpayers lost over 10 billion in the GM bailout.

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