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Re: Paintshop and Corel

Tony Cooper
SubjectRe: Paintshop and Corel
FromTony Cooper
Date11/26/2013 09:17 (11/26/2013 03:17)
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On 26 Nov 2013 06:36:30 GMT, Sandman <mr@sandman.net>wrote:

Sandman
In article <8sq699152d6ukds4n9t1pjmmig1t6rudpc@4ax.com>, Tony Cooper wrote:

Tony here seems to think that "Backup protocol" is something the user has to enable, define and set up in each application, while nospam is talking about the built in system-wide and automatic backup mechanism in OSX. So, in essence, there is no "backup protocol" in OSX, there is just "backup". No protocol needed. You turn it on and voila, your computer is 100% backed up. Congratulations.

nospam
i wasn't referring to just os x, but os x does make it very easy but it's not the only system that can do that.

Tony Cooper
Unbelievable! Between the two of you, neither understands "automatic".

Sandman
Ah, Tony's clown dictionary is in full effect afain.

Tony Cooper
Anything the machine does automatically is pre-determined by the protocol established and inserted into the program by the developer of the program.

Sandman
Ah, Mr Obvious strikes again!

Tony Cooper
That protocol can allow user-defined protocol to done automatically in the future.

Sandman
Say what?

Tony here is trying to say that automatic backup is a protocol

No I'm not.

because the automation was once created by someone - while at the same time ignoring / not realizing that that is exactly what we've said all along.

You really don't understand what a "protocol" is, do you? Automatic backup is not a protocol, but the requirement of automatic backups may be part of the backup protocol.

Backup protocols determine only what is done when the backup process is initiated, and that they are always done in the same way; a standard way. The protocol may include user-input such as time and destination and whether the process will be done one time or on a repeat - or automatic - basis.

The actual initiation of the automatic function is a completely different thing. That's done by a set of instructions in the program.

It is automatic *for the user* and not a protocol *for the user*,

I have no idea what you're trying to say there. What does "for the user" mean?

just like erasing a hard drive isn't a protocol *for the user* since all they do is press a button,

In this case, though you are describing it poorly, you are referring to an action that does not need a user-defined protocol because the user does not need a standard set of steps to accomplish the action.

The backup protocol is different because it can involve user-defined additions to the built-in protocol. The user determines a backup protocol that determines the frequency of backups and the location of where the backups are sent. Some programs, but not all by any means, allow the user to add this information and have that protocol followed automatically in the future.

-- Tony Cooper - Orlando FL