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Re: Paintshop and Corel

Sandman
SubjectRe: Paintshop and Corel
FromSandman
Date11/25/2013 16:40 (11/25/2013 16:40)
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In article <m3o699lcu5nkmjftqpss3pdj3bvv0mfkfg@4ax.com>, Tony Cooper wrote:

nospam
not really, and that link is titled 'what is your backup plan', not 'what is your backup protocol'.

i've been in the tech industry for a few decades, i have not heard the term 'backup protocol'. it's normally called 'backup strategy' or 'backup plan', which your link confirms in its title.

Savageduck
I use the term "protocol" in many different situations including referring to my back-up plan, method, etc. as my "Back-up protocol" especially when it comes to back-up on a road trip. Then I have referred to it as my "Triple Redundant Back-up Protocol" when using my Colorspace UDMA, MBP, & FW800 1TB portable HDD. I have written that in these photo NGs many times

Sandman
That's my interpretation of the term as well, that a "backup protocol" is something you execute manually. LIke you when on the road, you have a backup protocol (written down or in your head) of the steps you have to take to ensure that your data is backed up correctly.

Tony Cooper
A "protocol" is the standard way something is done. While you may determine the steps in your head, it isn't a protocol until it's initiated and put into place. The fact that you initiate certain steps manually doesn't change anything. If you manually change the back-up to go to device B instead of device A, you are still following the protocol because the protocol says you must manually designate a change in destination devices.

So you are talking about "the hard way"; manual when you are talking about this suppose "back-up protocol"? You made quite a big deal about nospam being an idiot for thinking so.

Sandman
But when you get home and offload the images to your Mac, the automatic backup to Time Machine is presumably not one of your "backup protocols" since it's all done automatically and without you having to do anything.

Tony Cooper
Jeez. I don't know if you just wanted to put your oar in and did so without thinking, or you are really this stupid.

Wow, an ad hominem from Tony- how very very unexpected.

How do you think an "automatic" process comes to be? Someone first decides what the process will be, and then writes it into the system.

So... that makes it manual to you, Tony? It is automatic to the one using it.

The back-up protocol was determined by the developers of the Time Machine program and installed it to do the back-up automatically in the future.

Wow, Mr Obvious here has the gall to call *me* stupid? Haha.

The "automatic" function is part of the protocol.

So is copying a file on your hard drive, yet that protocol is unknown and undecided by the user using it. The computer has a set of steps it has to take in order to fulfill ANY command you give it. Every single thing you do on a computer can be boiled down to "protocols".

When the steps are determined by the developer, and written into the program, a protocol has been established so the action will always be the same.

This is like watching a child trying to explain night and day to himself. "Uh, so the sun comes up, and then the night is over and uh, then the sun goes down I suppose".

That's a protocol. A protocol may include user-defined option choices like where the back-up is to go, and the location may be changed, but the protocol provides a tree to include these choices.

I know that your trolling instinct requires that you reply to something else than what was written, but why go to such lengths?

<snip rest of Mr Obvious joins kindergarten>

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