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Re: Paintshop and Corel

Tony Cooper
SubjectRe: Paintshop and Corel
FromTony Cooper
Date11/26/2013 08:20 (11/26/2013 02:20)
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On 26 Nov 2013 06:45:36 GMT, Sandman <mr@sandman.net>wrote:

Sandman
In article <u0u6991kdi98jcjplgo7f9euku0q80sqq2@4ax.com>, Tony Cooper wrote:

Tony Cooper
A "protocol" is the standard way something is done. While you may determine the steps in your head, it isn't a protocol until it's initiated and put into place. The fact that you initiate certain steps manually doesn't change anything. If you manually change the back-up to go to device B instead of device A, you are still following the protocol because the protocol says you must manually designate a change in destination devices.

Sandman
So you are talking about "the hard way"; manual when you are talking about this suppose "back-up protocol"?

Tony Cooper
What are you trying to say? That doesn't make sense.

Sandman
I am pointing to the fact that you seem to be refering to both manual and automatic backup's as "protocols". Assuming you don't call it your "file copying protocol" when you copy a file, the term is valid and descriptive, but unsual to be used for an automatic process - which is why nospam assumed you were doing things "the hard way"; manually.

I don't see why anyone should think a protocol for an automatic back-up system is unusual. The user makes certain determinations that will be done automatically from then on. The developer has included a protocol that allows these user settings to be followed automatically. The user is determining additional steps to the protocol.

A completely manual system, wherein the user determines each step each time, can follow a backup protocol the user determines.

Tony Cooper
A protocol is an established standard way of doing something. It can include manual steps. The Lightroom back-up protocol is that the LR file will be backed-up to whatever drive I specify at whatever frequency I specify. I can change the drive and the frequency manually. I can set it once and let it automatically follow that setting in the future.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Sandman
What gave you the idea that something as basic and simple as that would be hard to understand to anyone?? No one has talked about your lightroom backup but you, and no one but you cares about it.

If you'll go back a few posts in this thread, the "backup protocol" issue originated in comments about Tim Gray's presentation on Lightroom. PeterN has also attended a Tim Gray presentation, and he added some comments.

In that discussion, I used "backup protocol" and nospam posted a reply in which he indicated that he'd never heard of a "backup protocol". Later, SavageDuck used "backup protocol" in his comments about his Lightroom use and provided a cite to Adobe's use of the term.

That's four people, not "No one", who have talked about Lightroom backup. In fact, while I have not counted the participants in this subthread, my guess is at least half of the participants in the subthread have been discussing Lightroom in conjunction with a backup protocol.

Evidently, you have either not followed the thread or not understood the thread, and that has led to another post of yours containing nothing but irrelevant nonsense.

Tony Cooper
How do you think an "automatic" process comes to be? Someone first decides what the process will be, and then writes it into the system.

Sandman
So... that makes it manual to you, Tony? It is automatic to the one using it.

Tony Cooper
Ahh...there we go. "It is automatic to the one using it." This is the Humpty Dumpty definition of words. "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less." (Alice in Wonderland)

Thanks for providing the silliness I expected from you.

Sandman
Thanks for not trying to argue your "point" and revert back to trollish ad hominems again. I love it when I'm right.

It remains one of the best laughs of the week for me. Two self-anointed techies who think something is "automatic" because the user thinks it's automatic.

-- Tony Cooper - Orlando FL

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