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Re: Advocacy

Steve Carroll
SubjectRe: Advocacy
FromSteve Carroll
Date09/09/2017 00:19 (09/08/2017 15:19)
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On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 2:24:06 PM UTC-6, Doomsdrzej wrote:

Doomsdrzej
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 13:39:48 -0500, Marek Novotny wrote:

Marek Novotny
On 2017-09-08, Doomsdrzej <me@home.is>wrote:

Doomsdrzej
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:12:02 -0500, chrisv wrote:

chrisv
Doomsdrzej wrote:

Doomsdrzej
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 15:57:47 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

Peter Kohlmann
People like you just have a big mouth. And a tiny brain

Doomsdrzej
All I have to say to you is that it is a shame what the Allies did to the innocent German people during the Second World War and if I had been there during that time and known the facts as I do today, I would have gladly fought alongside your countrymen for the cause of National Socialism.

chrisv
!!!

Doomsdrzej
The facts do not lie and the man our media has been demonizing for over 70 years was not as evil as they want us to believe.

Marek Novotny
For clarity, what man would this be?

Doomsdrzej
Hitler. Our history books, documentaries and media in general have led us to believe that he attacked the Jews for no reason,

LOL! Which info claims it was for "no reason"? Ones that were written by authors who never heard of Mein Kampf, let alone actually read it? You might wanna think about just how goofy that suggestion is ;)

that he gassed six million of them alive and that he confiscated the guns from his people. Meanwhile, the facts show that he never confiscated guns and in fact encouraged his citizens to have a knowledge of self-defense and that he went after the Jews only after they had spent decades demonizing not only the Germans but him personally over things which never actually happened.

Realistically, it doesn't matter why he did what he did, the fact is the extermination crap threw him into a special category and, no (owl, I'm looking at you ,too) it doesn't matter if 6 million was the actual tally, it's what he did and the intent that matters.

Hell, even that number, six million, has been used by Jews in the newspapers they owned for decades before in an effort to gain sympathy from the rest of the world whenever they wanted donations and such things. The worst part is that the evidence that he actually gassed anyone, at all, is flimsy at best.

Nah... there's plenty of concrete evidence they were gassing people; if you really want to see it's not that difficult to find. Aside from the physical evidence, there is a bunch of written evidence by those who were personally involved. I learned about 'the stuff in the history books' *after* having been exposed to my uncles and friends of my dad's (he was navy and had some pretty bad Japanese horror stories of his own), talking about it so I know you're barking up the wrong revisionism. You're free to try and push the agenda that it didn't happen the way people who were there know it did, just like I'm free to tell you that you're talkin' *way* outta yo bohind.

To say the least, to believe the official narrative about both Hitler and the National Socialists would require one Hell of a leap of faith.

It requires a much bigger leap to claim there is no evidence that these atrocities occurred , you'd have to leap all the way into Snitville to get there.

The more I read, the more it is becoming clear that it is a fairy tale written by the media and the education system SINCE that time. Hell, nobody mentions how the Allies raped German women after the war (not just the Soviets) and they never mention how Churchill firebombed civilian centres in Germany in the hope that Hitler would retaliate and eventually find a way to get America into the war. Even if you ignore everything I just wrote, if Hitler were really as evil as they claim, why would he HALT his soldiers from killing off both French and British soldiers who were surrounded and mostly disarmed at Dunkirk? He could have won the War within less than a year.

Now *that* is crap that has risen to bogus myth level.

One of Hitler's main goals was to grab Russia's war production machine, (like that was ever going to happen), but even if he didn't try to drag Mussolini's dumb ass along the garden path (at his own considerable expense) he still faced way too many other obstacles to have held anything for any length of time... and that's just Russia. He tried to add them and got his ass handed to him. You'd have to redefine the word "win" using Snit's dictionary to make such a statement seem remotely reasonable. We'll never know but, in all likelihood, Russia would have beaten the Germans without U.S. involvement.