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SubjectRe: Advocacy
FromSnit
Date09/17/2017 18:08 (09/17/2017 09:08)
Message-ID<D5E3EBF1.B6E7A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
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Newsgroupscomp.os.linux.advocacy
FollowsMarek Novotny
FollowupsSteve Carroll (17m)

On 9/17/17, 8:56 AM, in article i62dnZ-yp56wBiPEnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>wrote:

Marek Novotny
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On 2017-09-07, Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>wrote:

On 2017-09-07, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>wrote:

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Steve Carroll
Unless someone pretending to be me emailed him, this one makes no sense... I'm gonna assume that's what happened. Why would I ask anyone here to to lie about you when anyone can see, as plain as day, what you are? It just doesn't make sense. I've never needed help from anyone other than you to point out your "wrongs" ;)

As for him believing that I *am* you, seems you got in his head. I don't know what all that stuff was about the keys and having been infiltrated or whatnot but it didn't come from me.

Marek Novotny
Looks like I didn't save them at all. Wish I had but I didn't. So I can't say what address they specifically came from. All I can say is that at the time I was asking each of you to email me and was trying to broker a truce, snit emailed me and either you did or one of the many variants of you did. At that time I was not aware of all the look-a-likes. So I just can't say for sure. Therefore I can't in good faith say it was you. Consider it retracted. Save this if you like, I've signed it with signature.

I was cleaning up my NAS storage and ran into various screen shots there. As luck would have it I found a screen shot of the FASTMAIL rules I had created at one point. One of the rules which you'll find interesting was a rule I made to block all the messages I was getting, I thought, from you Steve. I said I didn't save the messages, but I did make a rule at one point to filter them. And the rule shows the address to filter. The address was frelwizzen@gmail.com.

So Carroll. OK. Now we have poof you were speaking of Carroll. Fair enough.

As I mentioned earlier, I didn't know of these copy-cat accounts at the time. Later on you mentioned I was replying to copy-cat's in this group and so I started to adjust my Score file to assign values to your true address, which is marked with a +1 and copy-cats are given -9999. But at that time I had already removed the filter and moved on. Months had passed and the filter was no longer needed.

The screen shot has an auto file name which includes the date it was taken. 2017-02-20. That was likely the date I decided to remove the filter and sometimes when I am deleting something I tend to take a screen shot of it before I do so so I can roll it back if I need to. Wasn't even aware I had this.

So I owe you an apology, Steve. You never sent me mail requesting that I lie. It was a fake account. I am sure of this now.

LOL! Look above... you listed one of Carroll's accounts.

Again, no point in me being in this group at this point. I just wanted to post a follow up to this since I ran into what I consider proof and wanted to close the book on this subject and let you know.

You already said you were going to leave... but here you are again. I bet Carroll emailed you again begging you to say it was not him... but you screwed that up by listing it as one of his accounts as being the email. When will you back-pedal on that? Or is your goal just to create even more discord?

Anyway, I would welcome you back to COLA... my request though is for you to stop seeing YOUR tastes as what everyone should focus on. Sure, you do some great (and not so great) things with the CLI. Cool! You have a lot of knowledge and skill there. No need for you to attack people who tend to use the GUI. There is nothing wrong with using either the CLI or GUI... though of course each has areas where it may be the better tool for a job.

And focus more on technology than on how amazing YOU are. Stop comparing yourself to others... stop attacking those who you feel threatened by their knowledge and experience because it is quite different than your own.

Just share your own knowledge of tech and teach and learn. No need for you to leave... you CAN be a good poster and add value to the group if you wanted.

Just something for you to consider.

-- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>