Google| Subject | Re: Advocacy |
| From | Snit |
| Date | 09/07/2017 04:26 (09/06/2017 19:26) |
| Message-ID | <D5D5FC6A.B4EA8%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| Client | |
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Follows | Marek Novotny |
| Followups | Steve Carroll (1h & 47m) |
On 9/6/17, 7:02 PM, in article ZLSdnZOgXdpQNS3EnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>wrote:
Marek NovotnyThe fact developers work in such different ways than the users they work to serve is a part of the reason they need "middle-men" to help them serve users in a reasonable way.
On 2017-09-06, Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>wrote:MelzzzzzMarek Novotny
On 2017-09-06, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>wrote:Steve CarrollMelzzzzz
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:49:12 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote:F. RussellSteve Carroll
On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 16:14:28 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:Steve CarrollF. Russell
... and everyone knows that 9 out of 10 web developers choose... as do those in the server crowd who haven't been strong armed by MS tactics...
Web developers? Servers?
Yeah, you know, that segment where a sh*t-ton of activity is going on with computing... and has been for the last couple of decades.
(snip more 'one true God' drivel)
Yeah, seems that classic desktop applications are dead. You write server code and app works anywhere there is browser ;)
Exactly. I think the web developer, JavaScript, Node.js, Electron, etc developer is the new king for a good while to come. You need good web developers and then Android and iOS. And you need good infrastructure for the back end.
Did you check out the stackoverflow 2017 developer survey?
Platforms:
Windows Desktop 41% Linux Desktop 32.9% Android 28.2% AWS 28.1% MacOS 18.4% iOS 16.4% Raspberry Pi 16.1% Microsoft Azure 11.4%
Most Dreaded Languages
Visual Basic 6 88.3% <==== Holy Fuck! VBA 80.4% CoffeeScript 79.2% VB.NET 77.2%
Most wanted
Python 20.6% JavaScript 18.6% Go 13.5% C++ 11.8% Java 11.7%
Most Loved
Rust 73.1% Swift 63.9% Go 63.3% Python 62.7%
Most Loved platform
Linux Desktop 69.6% <===== Highest ranked Serverless 66.3% Amazon AWS 65.2% Raspberry Pi 65.2%
Most dreaded platform
SharePoint 70.9% <======= Microsoft's product. Windows Phone 60.8% Windows Desktop 44%
Most popular language by occupation
JavaScript 81.7% SQL 60.4% C# 38.1% Java 37.9 %
Most popular Developer Environment by Occupation
(Web Developer)
Visual Studio 38.8% Notepad ++ 34.3% Sublime Text 31.4% Vim 27.1%
(Desktop Developer)
Visual Studio 66.4 % Notepad++ 48.1 % Visual Studio Code 25.8% Eclipse 25.2 % Vim 21.2% Sublime Text 21.1% IntelliJ 18.8 %
(Sys Admin / DevOps)
Vim 42.1% <==============highest ranked Visual Studio 35.9% Notepad ++ 33.1% Sublime Text 28.6% InteliJ 23.8%
By the way, BBEdit and text Expander don't even show up at all on any of these surveys.
Vim in admin / DevOps is #1 Vim ranked high in all categories.
-- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
09/06/2017
