Google| Subject | Re: post processing |
| From | nospam |
| Date | 03/14/2014 04:17 (03/13/2014 23:17) |
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| Newsgroups | rec.photo.digital |
| Follows | Tony Cooper |
In article <5ro4i91jgaajjmf59m0s7bn95r7oca390k@4ax.com>, Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com>wrote:
of course you do. easier tasks will be easier to learn how to do. this is beyond obvious.Tony CoopernospamTony CooperTony Coopernospam
The learning curve for Gimp is no different than the learning curve for CS, Elements, or Lightroom for basic editing. It is a bit more difficult to learn only because there are fewer tutorials, and some of the tutorials are not as well done as the ones for the Adobe products.
it's more difficult because it was designed by geeks who don't know much about ui/ux design. photoshop was desgined by photographers and graphic artists *for* photographers and graphic artists, and it's been refined over the years.
The "learning curve" is about how long it takes a person to become proficient, and "proficient" is based on the person's needs. The people who use Gimp don't - as a rule - have high-end needs.
that's a flawed comparison, as usual.
for a valid comparison, you need to use the same tasks for both apps.
No, you don't.
the only way to compare two (or more) apps is with the same set of tasks.
First of all, it's not a valid comparison to try to compare a program that costs the user money and a program that is free. Like you keep saying about Macs, you have to compare equal specs.of course it's valid. if the free app did everything the paid app can do with the same ease of use, then it would be a compelling option.
not surprisingly, you get what you pay for. in this case, the free app has fewer features and what it does have, is harder to use and isn't as fast.
Second, if all that is required by the user is provided by Gimp, then the comparison is equal.only on a feature checklist.
what you and many people fail to consider is productivity and ease of actually accomplishing the tasks.
it's a fact.nospamTony Cooper
someone with lesser needs won't need to learn as much, so obviously it will take less time for those with lesser needs, unless the app is totally braindead (which does happen).Tony Coopernospam
Starting at Day One, two people of equal ability to work with a new program will be proficient enough in the same number of days in either program.
wrong.
That may be your opinion, but it's no more than that.
wrong. it's not a lie at all.Tony CooperAdobe's programs are fantastic; I'm now at CC CS6, have and use LR, own (but don't use very much) Elements 9, and will have Premiere as soon as it arrives. But, there's no need to badmouth Gimp when it does the job for those who use it.nospam
i'm not badmouthing anything.
Now *that* is an outright lie.
You make a big deal...whine, cry, and pound your little fists...when anyone is less than an enthusiastic about anything Apple.wrong.
i make a fuss when someone is mistaken about something, whether it's apple or something else entirely.
unfortunately, there is a shitload of misinformation about apple, much of it based on long outdated info.
You call them "haters" unless they praise Apple like a streetcorner preacher praising Jesus.wrong.
i call someone a hater when they bash for the sake of bashing, particularly when they never actually used the product they're bashing.
actual valid criticism is more than welcomed and in many cases, i will agree with it if it's really an issue.
apple does a lot of stupid stuff, but because the haters never actually use apple products, they never comment on the real shortcomings. not only that but when another company does the same thing, they get a free pass. *that* is why i call them haters.
Yet, you don't think your continuous negative comments about Gimp are "badmouthing".i don't, because every single one of my comments about the gimp is entirely factual, based on having used the gimp and photoshop and done numerous comparisons.
i do this every so often just to keep up with the newer revisions. not only that but the gimp's own roadmap lists some features to be done at some point in the future, ones which photoshop has had for 10-20 years.
that's not badmouthing, that's pointing out just how very limited the gimp actually is.
on the other hand, the gimp fanbois bash photoshop without ever having used it. that makes them the badmouthers.
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