Google| Subject | Re: post processing |
| From | Tony Cooper |
| Date | 03/14/2014 17:27 (03/14/2014 12:27) |
| Message-ID | <hu96i9199f3tocv162rgrr5uv247har7pf@4ax.com> |
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| Newsgroups | rec.photo.digital |
| Follows | Sandman |
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On 14 Mar 2014 15:51:41 GMT, Sandman <mr@sandman.net>wrote:
SandmanI knowing you sometimes struggle with the language, but you should be able to understand the difference between "a Photoshop plug-in" and "a plug-in for Photoshop". That word "for" in there should be simple to understand.
In article <si56i9drav6442ckmdkivsre0br1pbs10b@4ax.com>, Tony Cooper wrote:SandmanIt's a pretty important distinction when one makes an absolute claim such as this one:Tony Cooper Re: post processing 03/13/2014 <evo3i9p9n2fuik675s20suc9q39b7kqlq3@4ax.com>"Lightroom accepts PS plug-ins."Which, as it turns out, was false.Tony Cooper
What is the distinction? Actually, you are using a term that doesn't apply when you use "PS plug-ins" to mean OnOne and NIK. These companies don't claim to be "PS plug-ins" or "LR plug-ins". Nowhere on there sites does it claim that.
I never said they claimed it, either. But you do use plugins to extend the functions of Photoshop, regardless if you want to call it a "companion" or "cheese cake".Tony CooperSandman
OnOne states that their program is a "companion" to Lightroom and "works seamlessly" with Photoshop. They say they offer presets for PS and LR.
That's really cool to hear, Tony. I'll be sure to write down that totally irrelevant tidbit somewhere.Tony CooperSandman
Nik says they offer "powerful plug-ins for Photoshop and Lightroom".
But Tony said just above that Nik doesn't claim to be plug-ins! He'll be pissed at you now.
A "Photoshop plug-in" would be a plug-in authored by, and offered by, Adobe. A "Plug-in for Photoshop" is a plug-in that is authored by some other organization and offered as something that will work with Photoshop. Nik is offering a plug-in, a plug-in that will work with Photoshop, but not a Photoshop plug-in.
It's similar to the use of "companion to" which evidently throws you. A companion works with something, but is not from the same source.
It was an incomplete statement designed to work at your level of understanding of English, but - you are right - it should have been written "Lightroom accepts some plug-ins that also work in Photoshop".Tony CooperSandman
You won't find "A Photoshop plug-in" or "a Lightroom plug-in" anywhere on their sites.
Nor will you find them talking about a "binary file", but their download comes with one either way. Plugins are how they show up in the Photoshop CC and Lightroom menues, it's the method of interaction, and Tony once said this:
"Lightroom accepts PS plug-ins."
Which was false. I'm just letting him know this.
That said, and you know how I really like to shove your ignorance down your throat, here's a link for you:What was wrong about my statement? There's nothing in the above quote that I got wrong. It works as a plug-in. It can be used as a "companion" to Lightroom.
http://www.ononesoftware.com/products/suite8/
"Perfect Photo Suite works as a plug-in and is a perfect companion to Adobe Photoshop, Photoshop Elements, Lightroom, and Apple Aperture."
So not even that was something you could get right.
What word don't you understand?
It may be time for you to quietly vanish from this thread now.I know you'd like that. It must be embarrassing to you to be constantly exposed as the court's jester when you think you are the king.
-- Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
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