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Re: Apple Ad debate

Snit
SubjectRe: Apple Ad debate
FromSnit
Date07/02/2006 23:24 (07/02/2006 14:24)
Message-ID<C0CD87B3.53ACE%SNIT@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>
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Newsgroupscomp.sys.mac.advocacy
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FollowupsSandman (12m) > Snit

"Sandman" <mr@sandman.net>stated in post mr-A5B4E4.22524302072006@individual.net on 7/2/06 1:52 PM:

Sandman
In article <C0CD7AD5.53A94%SNIT@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>, Snit <SNIT@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>wrote:

Snit
Honestly quoting someone is not synonymous with agreeing with their message nor with supporting the use of improper grammar.

How much trolling will Wally do over the above facts?

NRen2k5
How much more trolling can *you* do?

Snit
Do you consider my repeating of clear facts that Wally is running from to be a form of trolling?

Sandman
We wouldn't, if that ever happened. As it is, all you do is troll, lie, obfuscate and snip and run.

Snit
I have asked Wally to keep his lies on this issue to this thread, so I am trying to have it not spread all over CSMA.

Sandman
Ironically, you're the one trying desperately to spread it all over csma with your antagonizing threads, like the troll you are. You need the attention, so you create the threads.

No matter how you spin it, Sandman, Wally is being no more honest nor honorable than you... you are both lying trolls.

What follows is what Wally is running from:

The ad in question: <http://snipurl.com/viruswhatvirus> Quote in question (slowed down): <http://snipurl.com/Slow_Quote> "no no do not be a hero, ***LAST YEAR*** there are 114,000 known viruses for PCs." [emphasis mine, poor grammar Apple's]

1) Wally dishonestly "quoted" the Apple commercial (while blaming others for doing so). He dishonestly denied it state "last year" and "quoted" it as: "no no do not be a hero, actually there are 114,000 known viruses for PC's.........". In his doing so, he used poor grammar (note the "PC's"). This is relevant based on #2:

2) Wally belittled me for honestly quoting the ad's poor grammar. "Really Snit that is stupid even for you! But never let it be said that I would not lend you a helping hand try this.. 'Last year there were................'" Wally further called me ignorant and stupid based on my being honest and quoting the ad correctly.

3) When #2 was pointed out, Wally lied and said my honestly quoting the ad was a form of "support" and "agreement" for its poor grammar. Wally is confusing the concepts of supporting telling the truth (as I did and he failed to do) with supporting the ads use of improper grammar (which I do not).

4) Wally played these games, no doubt, to obfuscate the fact that he dishonestly "quoted" Apple by claiming the ad did not use the phrase "last year". This whole grammar side issue is irrelevant to Wally's initial lie, but he is trying mighty hard to obfuscate it.

Honestly quoting someone is not synonymous with agreeing with their message nor with supporting the use of improper grammar.

-- ? Things which are not the same are not "identical" ??Incest and sex are not identical (only a pervert would disagree) ? OS X is partially based on BSD (esp. FreeBSD)

Sandman (12m) > Snit