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SubjectRe: nospam still hiding in the tall grass (was: The closest we'll get to nospam admitting to an erro
Fromnospam
Date01/30/2016 02:36 (01/29/2016 20:36)
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In article <45ce5641-71d7-4f1d-8a89-c6a53ed6fb00@googlegroups.com>, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com>wrote:

nospam
kodak filed for bankruptcy. saying film is dead is not wrong.

Whisky-dave
Doesn't make it dead, just less used than it was. The word dead has particualar uses perhaps you need to find a more apt word for film than dead.

nospam
it's an expression. only an idiot would take it literally.

Whisky-dave
Only a moron woud use the word dead to decribe such a thing.

it's common usage.

<http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/28/10864034/windows-phone-is-dead> With a lack of hardware, lack of sales, and less than 2 percent market share, it's time to call it: Windows Phone is dead. 

<http://www.infoworld.com/article/3002663/blackberry/let-us-now-finally- bury-the-blackberry.html> Can we all finally admit that BlackBerry is dead as a smartphone maker? Every one of its savior devices -- the BlackBerry Z10, Q10, Passport, Classic, and now Priv -- has been a failure.

<http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105381722> Analog TV Is Dead. Is Broadcast TV Dying?

nospam
i've said vinyl records cannot beat digital audio and film cannot beat digital photography and people start arguing that some people like vinyl records and some movie producers still use film.

Whisky-dave
So hardly dead then as you said. Analogue is better than digital for almost everything.

nospam
nonsense.

Whisky-dave
Analogue IS bettere than digital only someone that doesn;t understand digital would say something like that. You doi know that digital decribes an analogue signal chopped up into descrete pieces. You'd have to be really stupid to not understand that....

it's not chopped up into discrete pieces.

go learn something about sampling theory before you say more stupid shit.

this is why ACC is 'better' than MP3 and why loss-less is better than both. But there;s lots of peole liek you that think the MP3s they have are better than the original recording because they have beat headphones ot turn the bass up.

this isn't about lossy versus lossless. it's about digital versus analog.

Just like smartphones are better cameras than 'cameras' .

nospam
not every situation requires an slr. a smartphone fits into your pocket and is always with you.

Whisky-dave
So it;'s better than a DSLR is it ?

absolutely, when you don't have an slr. an slr doesn't fit in a pocket.

the best camera is the one that you have with you.

Easily possible all music is recorded using anlogue and then it's chopped upto digital and some bits thrown away

nospam
complete utter nonsense. you haven't a fucking clue. nothing is thrown away.

Whisky-dave
Microphones are analogue devices.

nobody said otherwise.

the part that is nonsense is that nothing is thrown away when it's digitized.

get yuorself a clue. http://www.mix-engineer.com/audio-philosophy/digital-vs-analog-recording/

Digital vs. Analog - Recording

When it comes to the recording process, analog gear will stay with us for a very long time. Even USB microphones have diaphragms and analog circuitry inside them. You obviously understand nothing.

i understand this far more than you ever will.

usb microphones are digital devices because they have an a/d in them.

nospam
this isn't about lossy compression, it's about digital versus analog.

Whisky-dave
Yes and analogue is better, it might NOT be cheaper or smaller size or more convient but that not important in deciding which is best.

analog cannot be better.

People knew how shit MP3s are compared to an original recording that's why people use ACC and lossless to some it doesn;t matter of course.

nospam
there may be shit quality mp3s but that has nothing to do with digital versus analog.

Whisky-dave
yes it does. It's called compressign the analogue data.

separate topic.

you're very confused.

nospam
there are also shit analog recordings too.

Whisky-dave
there are shit recording yes, they are shit digital recordigns too. Ghe reason they are shit is because of low sampling rates, that is where ACC improved over MP3s if digital was best no one especally apple would have pushed for ACC or would use Loss-less or FLAC or any of the other formats which are better than MP3s and ACCs .

this isn't about shit recordings.

Tony Cooper (21m) > nospam
Whisky-dave (2d, 9h & 13m)