Google| Subject | Re: The Lone Alien theory |
| From | Robbie Grant |
| Date | 07/18/2001 02:24 (07/18/2001 10:24) |
| Message-ID | <3B54D730.850979B8@ozemail.com.au> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.cult-movies.alien |
| Follows | Keith Hazelwood |
| Followups | Keith Hazelwood (5h & 27m) > Robbie Grant |
Keith Hazelwood wrote:
Keith Hazelwood"To my mind, that's a deliberately *engineered* weak link designed to intentionally prevent out-of-control breeding. The beauty of the *aliens as bioweapons*..." "It therefore seems plainly obvious to me that *their creators* didn't want them to survive and procreate indefinitely."
I didn't say that they ARE bioweapons
While maybe you're not saying that the aliens *are* bioweapons (although it does sound an awful lot like that), you're at least saying that you view them as such. With no proof (or necessity) whatsoever. No-one here is saying that the aliens *do* have an alternate lifecycle -- merely that they could, and that fans who were so disposed could view the alien that way (or not) if it suited their fancy.
, although it's *generally agreed
upon* that they are.Not by me. Not that I have any problem with you seeing them that way: I just prefer the idea of them being the ultimate Darwinian nightmare, as I've posted before.
It doesn't matter. Both are pulled out of thin air, and have very little with which to back themselves up. A flight of fancy is a flight of fancy.Robbie GrantKeith Hazelwood
any more than anyone else can say "but two modes of reproduction are necessary given that the alien is the perfect organism".
"Perfect organism" is too abstract. At least rationalizing their strengths and weaknesses based on their conjectural role as genetically engineered bioweapons gives us something relatively concrete to work with.
No, it indicates a short larval stage. It says nothing about how long the alien will live.Robbie GrantKeith Hazelwood
We also, btw, don't know that the aliens age quickly and die.
We know for a *fact* they age quickly. The ones in Alien and Alien 3 went from "infancy" to adulthood within a day. This indicates a short lifespan.
Sorry, I thought you were talking about the fact that the alien slowed down in the last bit of Alien, indicating that it would have an *extremely* short lifespan.Robbie GrantKeith Hazelwood
Pure unnecessary conjecture (which *I* have no problem with) from one moment in the first film, that was contradicted by the second.
How did the second film contradict it? The infestation of the colony happened only within the space of weeks, perhaps a couple of months, given the abrupt loss of contact with Earth and the Sulaco's three week transit time from Gateway station to Acheron.
Look, I told you about the trees, and Swarve mentioned grass. I'm sure there are others -- do I *really* have to go and look them up?Keith HazelwoodThat's the sole purpose of EVERY species, Cov. Yet most, with the exception of your Jurassic Park frogs, didn't evolve with alternate modes of reproduction to ensure their continued survival.Robbie Grant
Actually, as I've stated, I'm fairly sure that some have.
Well that's convincing.
In reality, no. But we're talking about movies. Tsk, tsk... and *you* told *me* that strawmen were bad...Robbie GrantKeith Hazelwood
And even if none did, that's no reason to assume that none ever could.
There's no reason to assume I can't sprout wings and fly, but that doesn't make the possibility any less silly.
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