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Re: Pretty cool...

Alan Baker
SubjectRe: Pretty cool...
FromAlan Baker
Date06/12/2013 20:24 (06/12/2013 11:24)
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In article <PZednT6sYLSdrSXMnZ2dnUVZ5j2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Steve de Mena <steve@demena.com>wrote:

Steve de Mena
On 6/11/13 4:04 AM, Sandman wrote:

Sandman
In article <IrudnbQFIPtlDivMnZ2dnUVZ5gCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Steve de Mena <steve@demena.com>wrote:

Alan Baker
Plus 4 USB3, HDMI 1.4, gigabit ethernet, and all ports light up for easier use when you turn the machine.

And 802.11ac Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0

All in a 10" high by 6.5" high cylinder.

Steve de Mena
Right. What will the dimensions actually be when people add the expansion they used to be able to put inside. More cables and money for an ugly Thunderbolt chassis to hold 1-4 PCIe cards, plus one for a RAID drive system. It will end up taking more physical floor space than the current Mac Pro.

Sandman
Not for me. I don't need PCIe cards. Surely you're not applying criteria that only apply to some to all Mac Pro users?

Steve de Mena
Should I only apply criteria that apply to all users? I'm a Pro user that this machine is targeted for. Audio professionals, especially Pro Tools users, generally use one or more PCIe slots.

"Choice of HD Native Thunderbolt interface or PCIe card Unlike USB- or FireWire-based DAWs, which are inherently prone to latency, Pro Tools|HD Native employs either a high-speed Thunderbolt interface or PCIe core card to connect Pro Tools HD Series interfaces with your laptop or desktop computer. "

<http://www.avid.com/US/products/Pro-Tools-HD-native>

Is one stuck with the AMD FirePro GPUs, no way to upgrade like the current Mac Pro?

Sandman
Yeah, you're "stuck" with 12GB of VRAM that would edit full-resolution 4K video without breaking a sweat. Don't you feel trapped.

Steve de Mena
Maybe I don't need that. I do audio. Perhaps I'd like a less heat-generating and cheaper option, so I have money left over to buy the external Thunderbolt accessories to actually make this thing work for me?

Just how much heat will it be generating when it's not working hard at all, Steve?

Single Xeon processor? No dual CPU option like today?

Sandman
Only one socket in the images. Only 12 Xeon cores... buhu... :)

Steve de Mena
One has to reach around to the back to turn the damn thing on and off?

Sandman
NO? SAY IT ISN'T SO???? THEY WON'T SELL A SINGLE ONE!!! :)

Steve de Mena
How do you connect multiple monitors to it? Do the Thunderbolt ports double as DisplayPorts?

Sandman
There are six (6) thunderbolt ports on it. Each port can daisy-chain six devices. That's 36 Thunderbolt devices. Each port pumping 20Gb/s of data back and forth. No matter what you think about Apple or the Mac, that's just figures that are out of this world.

Steve de Mena
Hope Thunderbolt devices don't peter out and die due to lackluster acceptance...

<http://www.uaudio.com/interfaces/apollo.html>

<http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/symphony-io.php>

<http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/ultrastudiothunderbolt/>

<https://thunderbolttechnology.net/products>

Doesn't seem to be a problem, Steve...

Sandman
It also gives you a HDMI out and four USB3 ports (you know, for the old slow devices :)

Steve de Mena
Wow, four USB ports. I'm impressed I have TWO 10-port USB powered hubs on my Mac Pro today,

You have 20 USB devices you need to use simultaneously, do you?

-- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."