Google| Subject | Re: Pretty cool... |
| From | Alan Baker |
| Date | 06/14/2013 20:22 (06/14/2013 11:22) |
| Message-ID | <alangbaker-DE0B28.11225014062013@news.shawcable.net> |
| Client | |
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Follows | Steve de Mena |
| Followups | Steve de Mena (8d, 17h & 51m) > Alan Baker |
In article <ZbSdndUAtqYuhSfMnZ2dnUVZ5sqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Steve de Mena <steve@demena.com>wrote:
Steve de MenaHow does any of that refute the fact that Pro Tools users no longer need to use PCIe slots.
On 6/12/13 11:24 AM, Alan Baker wrote:Alan BakerSteve de Mena
In article <PZednT6sYLSdrSXMnZ2dnUVZ5j2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Steve de Mena <steve@demena.com>wrote:Steve de MenaAlan Baker
On 6/11/13 4:04 AM, Sandman wrote:SandmanSteve de Mena
In article <IrudnbQFIPtlDivMnZ2dnUVZ5gCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Steve de Mena <steve@demena.com>wrote:SandmanAlan BakerSteve de Mena
Plus 4 USB3, HDMI 1.4, gigabit ethernet, and all ports light up for easier use when you turn the machine.
And 802.11ac Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0
All in a 10" high by 6.5" high cylinder.
Right. What will the dimensions actually be when people add the expansion they used to be able to put inside. More cables and money for an ugly Thunderbolt chassis to hold 1-4 PCIe cards, plus one for a RAID drive system. It will end up taking more physical floor space than the current Mac Pro.
Not for me. I don't need PCIe cards. Surely you're not applying criteria that only apply to some to all Mac Pro users?
Should I only apply criteria that apply to all users? I'm a Pro user that this machine is targeted for. Audio professionals, especially Pro Tools users, generally use one or more PCIe slots.
"Choice of HD Native Thunderbolt interface or PCIe card Unlike USB- or FireWire-based DAWs, which are inherently prone to latency, Pro Tools|HD Native employs either a high-speed Thunderbolt interface or PCIe core card to connect Pro Tools HD Series interfaces with your laptop or desktop computer. "
<http://www.avid.com/US/products/Pro-Tools-HD-native>
The Thunderbolt device is brand new. 1% of Pro Tools HD users probably own it.
It's also NOT sold separately.
I can't go buy the Thunderbolt version of my PCIe card without buying Pro Tools 11HD *and* and a minimum HD OMNI $3,000 audio interface. So it's 5-6 THOUSAND dollars to switch from my PCIe card to Thunderbolt. (If sold separately it would still be a $2,000 cost).
And you use all of those SIMULTANEOUSLY, do you? The iPhone 5 charger (that would be "cable" actually, right), the iPhone 4 charger base and the iPad charger: you have to have all three of those plugged in at the same time at all times? And by definition, backup drives aren't in use at all times... ...unless you're a complete idiot.Steve de MenaHope Thunderbolt devices don't peter out and die due to lackluster acceptance...Alan Baker
<http://www.uaudio.com/interfaces/apollo.html>
<http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/symphony-io.php>
<http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/ultrastudiothunderbolt/>
<https://thunderbolttechnology.net/products>
Doesn't seem to be a problem, Steve...
Wow, four. I bet you could have found another 3-4 too.
LOLSteve de MenaAlan BakerSandmanSteve de Mena
It also gives you a HDMI out and four USB3 ports (you know, for the old slow devices :)
Wow, four USB ports. I'm impressed I have TWO 10-port USB powered hubs on my Mac Pro today,
You have 20 USB devices you need to use simultaneously, do you?
Yes, close to that. Actually 21-22. USB list below. Haven't you caught on yet I'm not an iPhoto casual user?
Apple Keyboard Epson Scanner Dell Monitor 1 USB Hub 1 Dell Monitor 2 USB Hub 2 Card Reader iPhone 5 charger iPhone 4 charger base (occasional use only) iPad Charger Yamaha MOTIF-RACK XS Yamaha MOTIF-RACK ES Roland INTEGRA-7 Roland V-Synth XT Old Drobo iLok2 dongle eLicenser dongle ad-hoc USB drives (2-3 total) for backups M-Audio 4-port MIDI interface MOTU 8-port MIDI interface Native Instruments Maschine drum machine Korg M3 Synthesizer Wacom tablet wireless receiver
And now that you've produced this "impressive" list, show us the workstation that would give you 20 USB ports. Because, if you can't, what's the difference if you have 6 or 8 instead of only 4: you still need hubs, right?
Interesting also, that you don't like the lack of internal expandability on the new Mac Pro...
...while choosing to use an "Old Drobo".
Steve-- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
06/10/2013-
-
-
-
-
