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FromAnimal Hour
Date2002-04-11 12:31 (2002-04-11 12:31)
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In article <j4c8bukec9pc21qo51ub591emh4bgop7ua@4ax.com>, Adam Cameron <da_cameron@hotmail.com>writes:

1) The eggs were a biological weapon carried by the Space Jockey (from his

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base toward a target which "he" never reached) 2) The eggs were being carried by the SJ as scientific specimens (from the xenomorph homeworld to labs on the jockey's world)

I don't particularly like options (1) and (2). Wouldn't the SJ take some precautions? In (1) the jockey's knowledge of the alien would make him wary;

in

(2) his total *lack* of knowledge would make him wary.

So kind of like the crew of Auriga, yes?

I'm not sure what you mean.

The Auriga people made obvious attempts to cage the aliens. I don't see the attempts at defense on the derelict craft.

You just inspired a new thought. Based on A:R, it would have been interesting if the hole between the egg hold and the pilot's chamber were in the *ceiling*, rather than in the floor. That would suggest that acidic fluid from an alien allowed at least one to escape the hold and attack the pilot.

4) The SJ got infected on the Alien homeworld and returned while impregnated

to

his ship. His chestburster became a queen. She laid the eggs Kane found.

A possibility eliminated by ALIENS:

Why eliminated? There's nothing to refute the initial lifecycle

Yeah, I know. But I get tired of writing "probably" all the time. Just pretend that I wrote "A possibility probably made less likely by ALIENS" or something like that.

Kane only explored a small section of a *very* *big* cavern / hold. There could have been sound evidence of a previous queen-based environment not 50m from where he was.

I think that was James Cameron's assumption.

The hive in ALIENS is at least two rooms. He made a distinction in his screenplay between the room where the queen lives while laying eggs and the room where the hosts are attached to the wall (and most of the other aliens sleep). If Kane had disconnected his tether and wandered into another room, he might have found, attached to the walls, the fossilized remains of other space jockeys who had been used as hosts

For that matter there could have been a completely *live* hive 50m from where he ran amuck.

True, although I don't particularly like that idea.

The aliens in Aliens didn't really make their presence known until they had reason to.

Yeah, I think the fire woke them up.

Maybe they never had reason to during Kane's brief visit.

Perhaps there was some sort of barrier enclosing the eggs but there was a

power

failure or other malfunction.

Or perhaps it was still there - as shown - but the idea wasn't to completely ignore it and go stumbling over the live cargo?

It's not a barrier if you can just stroll right through it :-)

A cage, a door, or a force-field would be a barrier.

I would agree that the laser might have been a warning sign, though

(scientific specimen) makes some sense then. Option 1 (weapon) still

doesn't

work well though.

Why? In the course of developing Sarin and the ilk, has *no-one* accidentally met an untimely demise?

Try to recreate the event for me.

It would be an "interesting" exercise if Kane didn't have someone to rescue him: he would have died as soon as the FH fell off. I guess the alien doesn't care, but we'd be left with a CB / alien sitting there thinking "great... I'm still here...".

Yeah, that's why I can understand that guy in the "Something for Covenant" thread predicting that "Alien II" would suck. Look at all the things that have to happen just right for the original ALIEN to happen.

Adam

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