Google| Subject | Re: Adobe's Low hanging .... ? |
| From | Whisky-dave |
| Date | 2014-07-30 11:53 (2014-07-30 02:53) |
| Message-ID | <f716b030-20dd-41ca-8c2a-2a37e611718d@googlegroups.com> |
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| Followups | nospam (5h & 18m) > Whisky-dave |
On Wednesday, 30 July 2014 02:02:16 UTC+1, nospam wrote:
nospamWrong.
In article <5fb39901-ce0f-42bc-94e4-5bdb4264e0f3@googlegroups.com>, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com>wrote:nospamWhisky-daveWhisky-davenospam
I doubt the cloud is entirley made up of SSDs, there's a reason for that.
ssd would be a waste for the cloud, as any speed advantage would be wasted.
But you've calimed they are more relible, there's as yet not enough evidence to claim that.
oh yes there is. no moving parts for one.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/corsair-force3-recall-120gb-ssd,12893.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-bug-ssd-320-series,13076.html
Are you also saying tehre's no differnce between teh 'Entreprise' models and the standard most people buy ?
Perhaps to you, but not everyone.nospamWhisky-daveWhisky-dave
I'm really not sure which would be the most *relible* a SSD of around 512Gb or spending that amount of cash on 512Gb HDDs and keeping clones as backups.The good SSDs have similar life spans to HDDs.nospam
actually much better than hd.
In theory and as yet unproven.
it's proven.
you don't know much about this do you.Whisky-davenospam
No it's not.
yes it is that simple.
New and better types SSDs . SSD have never had movign parts thqat doesn;t make them indestructable.Whisky-davenospam
It is that's why they are developing new types of SSD and even currebntly they are diffent types. http://www.kingston.com/en/ssd
they're always developing new types of everything, including hard drives
they work I've used them.Whisky-davenospam
you've not heard of DVD cleaners ? Shows you how little you know about the subject.
cd/dvd cleaners are a complete waste of money.
it's not just where the light is focused either, it's about light dispertion too. Even putting as label on a disc can cause problems.Whisky-davenospam
Yes it does, just like records or even words on paper.
nope. scratches are on the surface of the disc and not where the laser is focused.
the scratches would need to be very serious to cause a problem. minor scratches do not matter at all.There's is a tolerance to what you might call minor scratches. But how can you know so little about this. There's plenty of tips out there for fixign damaged discs due to scratches I've used them myself.
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/how-to-fix-scratched-dvd.htm
"As a DVD stores its data externally on a disc it can easily get scratched, which can affect the data. Scratches are a disc's worst enemy. Whether or not a scratched disc can be repaired depends on where the scratch is located. If the scratch is on the top, shiny part of the disc, the disc is not repairable and all the data is lost. If the scratch is on the bottom, plastic part of the disc, you may be able to repair the disc by resurfacing and polishing it "
So what do *you* mean by lost data ? or are you goign to claim dtat doesn;t get lost.nospamWhisky-daveWhisky-davenospam
I've never lost my house keys, but I;ve needed to use my duplcate set. My keys were inside the house, but I needed my backup.
irrelevant comparison.
then stop using the word LOST becaus eit has no meaning here.
it does.
Depends who using the term and how they are using it.nospamWhisky-daveWhisky-dave
I'm sure we've all lost something and had someone tells us no you left you'relens cap here or I picked up your lighter, it was on teh floor sort of thing.nospam
you don't leave your data on the couch.
and you don't loss data it becomes corrupted and that is what people say they have lost data.
you just said lost has no meaning, now you say it's widely used.
No you don't need backups until the original fails or disapears for whatever reason. Then the first option is usaully to find the backup, or an archive depending how you work.nospamif there's *any* problem with the original, you get a backup copy.Whisky-dave
But you have to know there's a problem.
so? if you have the data on the main drive you don't need a backup, do you?
the thing is you don't know when (not if) the main drive will fail, nor can you prevent accidental deletion, which is why backups are vital.One of the reasons. I don;t think 'accidental deletion' is so much of a problem with HDDs not sure about SSDs due to there much smaller capacitices poele might start deleting files like they used to with floppies and low capacity HDs. That's down to the indivual.
Who said anyhting about the user deleting it, that's not the only way files and data gets removed.nospamWhisky-daveWhisky-davenospam
With the word LOST in computer terms it measn it's not where it expects the file to be.
lost means the data is gone.
No it does not. I guess you've never come across the LOST+FOUND directory have you.
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/18154/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-lostf ound-folder-in-linux-and-unix
if the user accidentally deletes a file, it's not going to end up there.
The file does, this is real basic stuff here you're missing. https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071206121022AAyP6wDnospamWhisky-davenospamWhisky-daveWhisky-davenospam
Even when you delete a file all that happens is that data is changed no data is lost useful information might derived from the file.
if you delete a file, it's gone.
No it's not, all that happens is the start and end locations amonst others of the file are 'zeroed out' for the want of a better word , thats how some recovery programs work.
actually what happens is the directory entry is changed.
ONLY yes the file still exists.
no it doesn't still exist..
"When you delete a file, it's never actually deleted unless the facilities are available on the computer system to command the file system to actually overwrite the contents of the file. When a file is deleted, all that happens is that an entry to the file is removed so you can't see it when browsing for files and it won't turn up on searches. It'll likely still be there on the disk however. "
the blocks that had the data may still have the dataSo they data isn;'t lost then is it.
but they are marked as unused and may be overwritten at any time. there is no file anymore.The data is still there. That is how recovery programs work not by magic or spells or chants but by looking at the data and retriving it. As time goes buy the space that the file took will be overwritten if and when needed.
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