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Re: Adobe's Low hanging .... ?

Tony Cooper
SubjectRe: Adobe's Low hanging .... ?
FromTony Cooper
Date2014-07-23 19:38 (2014-07-23 13:38)
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:20:59 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

nospam
In article <5kqvs99c93v3g8h27e8pqrpcmqv2ptcnqj@4ax.com>, Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com>wrote:

Eric Stevens
Power supplies are glued into iPads: didn't you know?

nospam
no they aren't. where did you get that insane idea? plus, what's in

that picture is not an ipad power supply anyway nor is there any

evidence of it being glued to an ipad.

the batteries inside an ipad, however, are glued (and not in all of them) for many reasons.

battery != power supply.

Eric Stevens
Isn't it?

nospam
no, it isn't.

Whisky-dave
Why isn;t it. The battery is the power supply it's what supplies power to the circuitry so it is the power supply.

nospam
the power supply refers to the part that plugs in the wall, not the battery.

Tony Cooper
Apple doesn't refer to them as a "power supply". Apple calls them a "Power Adapter". It adapts, or converts, the incoming power to the level that is required to charge the battery.

nospam
it goes by many names.

Two, at least, but not the one you use: power supply.

Where is an instance - other than in your writing - where it is used by someone with credibility and/or an Apple employee?

it also supplies power.

Tony Cooper
http://store.apple.com/us/iphone/iphone-accessories/power#!

If you Google "iPhone power supply", you are redirected to "charging devices" and "power adapters".

https://www.apple.com/power-adapters/

nospam
which means that common usage is that power supply means the box that plugs into the wall.

No, it doesn't. It means that Google's algorithm picked up on the words "iPhone" and "power" and found the nearest probable inclusion of those words in a term. It has nothing - nothing - to do with "common usage".

google does that for a lot of search terms.

Tony Cooper
I would not consider an adapter to be a power supply. The power adapter charges the battery, and the power the phone uses comes from the battery.

nospam
not always, and what you personally consider it to be does not matter.

your google search proves that power supply == power adapter.

JXC! It doesn't *prove* anything except that Apples uses "power adapter".

Tony Cooper
The phone can be used with the adapter in use, or with a charger connected to a 12V system, but the power still comes through the battery. Without the battery in place, there is no way to power up the phone without some modification to the phone.

nospam
actually it doesn't.

Yes it does.

when it's connected to a charger, it's *charging* the battery, not running from the battery.

The battery is making the phone operational. The charger is charging the battery, but the power used when the phone is operational is from the battery. The charger is just replenishing the battery's power.

or to put it another way, energy is flowing into the battery, not out of it.

You don't need to. I wrote "through the battery". Energy is also flowing out of battery to power the phone.

Tony Cooper
In any battery-powered device - like a drill or a portable vacuum - no one would consider the adapter used to charge the battery to be a power supply. It's called either a power adapter or a charging device.

nospam
sure they would.

How many coach passengers did you ask?

You do come up with some doozies to defend your errors.

Wouldn't it be simpler just to admit "well, yeah, it's an adapter not a power supply, but i wasn't thinking right when i wrote that."

-- Tony Cooper - Orlando FL