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I hate front wheel drive, send most torque to the rear, please wrote:

Alan Baker
Alan Baker wrote:

On 2014-02-28 13:27:01 +0000, Nashton said:

And you can change gears faster than a DSG?

It's most;y irrelevant how fast you are rowing through the gears outside the F1 domain. What is important with a stick that there is no override from the box, so that _you_ control exactly when the shifting is done ...

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Precisely correct, although the simpler answer to Nicolas is that a manual requires greater personal engagement to the operation than a Tip or DSG does, which transcends much more factors than merely "how fast did it shift?". From this perspective, the factor that you mention of the difference in timing precision & predicability of the two systems is thus a differentiator - - which has nothing to do with the 'how fast shift?' question because its metric is when the shift occurs relative to when the driver _expects_ the shift to occur.

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Alan Baker
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What Nicolas also doesn't realize is that while he's now got (barely) one month worth of firsthand experience, other posters here have orders of magnitude more experience, with both Tips and DSGs, to be more familiar with their nuances and subsequent trade-offs. Nicolas is still too wrapped up in his glossy marketing brochure hype and new car smell to realize that as always, TANSAAFL applies.

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