Alan Baker
On 2014-02-24 17:54:42 +0000, David Fritzinger said:

David Fritzinger
In article <lec4ff$qrk$2@dont-email.me>, "Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC" <isquat@gmail.com>wrote:

Alan Baker
On 2/22/14, 18:41, -hh wrote:

On Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:05:42 AM UTC-5, Nashton wrote:

On 2014-02-21 12:49 PM, Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC wrote:

Right, they fixed the ride, but now you've got problems with the fucking understeer, cause the fucking thing got fwd.

You mean torque steer.

No, he means understeer, although not necessarily for the reason he claims.

When you get at least 50% of torque to the rear axle it's a piece of cace to rotate the car once you will have turned ESP off.

So yes I meant understeer in the drivetrain layout context. Though subaru with it's outgoing symmetrican layout is notoriously unwilling to rotate. I guess it's a moot point in a pig such as Q7.

David Fritzinger
FWIW, in many cases you can get oversteer in a FWD car by cutting back on the throttle in the middle of a high speed turn, when understeer is raising its ugly head. Of course this varies from car to car, depending on how the manufacturer has set up the suspension and on how good the car's grip is.

Alan Baker
Correct: trailing throttle oversteer.

It won't be as bad as it would be in a RWD car, because the fact that the engine braking operates on the front wheels rather than the rear means that the reduction in traction operates against the oversteer rather than adding to it.