Google| Subject | Re: Ideological differences between big 3 german, americans and jap trash |
| From | Alan Baker |
| Date | 2014-02-23 20:19 (2014-02-23 11:19) |
| Message-ID | <ledhiu$pm8$1@news.datemas.de> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Follows | Nashton |
On 2014-02-23 11:20:41 +0000, Nashton said:
NashtonActually, you have the precisely wrong.
On 2014-02-23 2:29 AM, Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC wrote:Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLCNashton
On 2/22/14, 18:41, -hh wrote:-hh
On Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:05:42 AM UTC-5, Nashton wrote:Nashton-hh
On 2014-02-21 12:49 PM, Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC wrote:Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLCNashton
Right, they fixed the ride, but now you've got problems with the fucking understeer, cause the fucking thing got fwd.
You mean torque steer.
No, he means understeer, although not necessarily for the reason he claims.
What context, you bloviating idiot? The only context where understeer would be a factor in a FWD as opposed to a RWD, is at much higher speeds and generally in a track situation.
At high speeds, FWD cars and RWD cars both behave very similarly, because there is very little excess power to use up the available grip of the driving tires.
At slow speeds, FWD cars understeer badly when you attempt to accelerate in a turn, because:
1. Weight transfers away from the front wheels.
2. The forward acceleration uses up grip that you need for lateral acceleration.
Whereas RWD cars go from understeer to oversteer as you add more power, because:
1. At first, weight transfers away from the front wheels.
2. Eventually, forward acceleration uses up all the available grip from the rear wheels.
Torque steer, OTOH, is obvious at any speed.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
No, bloviator, he meant torque steer.Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLCNashton
When you get at least 50% of torque to the rear axle it's a piece of cace to rotate the car once you will have turned ESP off.
Oh, merci beaucoup, Captain Obvious.Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLCNashton
So yes I meant understeer in the drivetrain layout context. Though subaru with it's outgoing symmetrican layout is notoriously unwilling to rotate. I guess it's a moot point in a pig such as Q7.
Funny though, how my "pig" can leave most cars in the dust, what with a flat powerband and with 406 lbs.ft of torque available at 1750 RPM. And the thing corners like it's going out of style, especially in dynamic mode.
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