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Re: Snit post-editing

Steve Carroll
SubjectRe: Snit post-editing
FromSteve Carroll
Date2015-12-11 05:27 (2015-12-10 20:27)
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Followupsowl (1h & 21m) > Steve Carroll

On Thursday, December 10, 2015 at 7:53:04 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:

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owl
OK.

Did you grasp how javascript handles closures here?

( I know, you like it about as much as you like Beck ;)

Steve Carroll
Now, to rile you back up a bit:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BmwBHEL5TY>

owl
Lots of people play it. Dave wrote it.

Steve Carroll
Yeah, right ;) This chick is 'rewriting' it on the fly (jammin'):

<https://youtu.be/4hFyTDkbpjI?t=285>

owl
That is absolute crap.

OK, so describe what makes this one "absolute crap".

What a jackass.

LOL! You're missing the point I'm trying to make. What do you think was "written" about his solo? I bet he just played some takes and cobbled together the parts he liked from them, like lots of guys do in the studio.

<http://www.gilmourish.com/?p=268>

Steve Carroll
And there are several other young chicks that can play it decently on YT... but they ain't playing Beck's stuff ;)

owl
There's a reason for that, and it's not because it's awesome. :)

Steve Carroll
It's because they can't figure out how to do what he does, not in the way he does it.

owl
LOL! Yeah, making a complete mess is hard to match.

Where is the tune he did that on?

Steve Carroll
Look, you can jam like some people, others, you can't. People can jam remarkably *like* Gilmour once they nail the processing stack. You can switch crap around all year long and *never* sound like Beck. I guarantee Beck could sound like Gilmour in a few minutes. The reverse? Never gonna happen.

owl
Is that how Satriani can "sound like" Hendrix? I'll pass.

Seriously, is there anything that Beck wrote that gives you goosebumps when you hear it?

Steve Carroll
And the sound of my jaw hitting the floor: Blow By Blow, Wired, Guitar Shop.

owl
I didn't mean the kind of goosebumps you get when someone rakes their fingernails down a blackboard. :)

LOL! C'mon, admit it, you've never heard any of the music I just mentioned.

Steve Carroll
I've never gotten that from Gilmour's playing. Frankly, outside of a few PF tunes I rarely listened to him.

owl
That's the mark of greatness, not "chops" or seeing how "out there" you can get. It's called "music." Some people forget that it's supposed to be listened to and enjoyed.

Steve Carroll
And some people forget that the mantle of 'greatest guitarist' is different than 'greatest composer' or 'greatest guy playing a particular solo I like'. Nothing wrong with that... but it's a different discussion. In any event, there really is no 'greatest guitarist' but there is raw talent, which Beck has more of compared to *any* of the Brits. And every single one of them will tell you that. While I think these little 'lists' and 'ratings' are a joke, if DG was so great he should be in this one (not like he never played a Gibson):

<http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/10-Greatest-British-Guitarists-of-All-Time.aspx>

owl
Pete Townshend and Mick Ronson? WTF. (Counting Beck, that makes a total of three WTFs).

That's my point, these lists are silly. One thing I would point out, though, Beck is on a helluva a lot of them... but they're still BS.

owl (1h & 21m) > Steve Carroll