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SubjectRe: Any Minolta/Sony users using UFRaw and GIMP?
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Date2014-04-09 00:21 (2014-04-08 18:21)
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In article <2009528.ZhslsrucP5@thecrap.blueyonder.co.uk>, sid <sidney@sidshouse.net>wrote:

ray carter
In the past, I've found dcraw useful to get a quick look at things by extracting the jpeg thumbnail (dcraw -e).

nospam
once again, more work than needed. on a mac, there's no need to run anything (especially using a command line). a simple tap of the space bar gives a quick look of nearly any file (photos, pdfs, spreadsheets, zip files and much more), which is why it's called quick look.

sid
So how does quick look know which file you would like to see?

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the ones you have selected. obviously.

sid
Selected where?

nospam
in finder.

sid
Oh, you mean the file manager, that you ran by clicking the finder icon in the dock

although finder manages files, it's not a 'file manager'. it does a lot more (some of which rather poorly but that's another discussion entirely).

you must be running something to be able to see files to select.

nospam
finder is part of the operating system. it's always running. it's 'the desktop'. users don't 'run' finder.

sid
It's an app that's autostarted when you log in. It lives at /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app

notice the .app at the end.

notice that it's buried in the system and *not* in the applications folder.

while it might technically be an app, it isn't an app to the user. most users wouldn't know to look there anyway. finder is part of the system. it's the desktop that the user sees.

you also forgot the dock app and various other apps and processes that also are running, and none of those are considered to be 'apps' even though technically some are.

That's not some sort of file manager you are running is it? And what do you think happens when you tap the spacebar? It runs some viewing software, so that's 2 things you've run.

nospam
first of all, there are dozens of processes running, without the user having to run them manually, including finder. tapping the space bar is just another keystroke interpreted by finder. it does not run a second app.

sid
So you are running the first app then?

finder is always running.

all the user does is select one or more images and tap the space bar.

that's as easy as it gets, but apparently even that is too complicated for you.

nospam
as far as the user is concerned, they click on one or more files, tap the space bar and see the contents for nearly any file type. photos are shown as photos, movies play in a window, spreadsheets are shown as spreadsheets, etc.

sid
I'm not talking about "as far as the user is concerned". You said you don't have to run anything to have a preview display. I'm saying you do.

and you're wrong.

tapping a space bar is not 'running an app'. it's utilizing a feature that's built into an app that is part of the operating system and always running.

All of this is pointless,

that's true. you're arguing over stupid details.

whether you consider finder to be an app or not doesn't change how easy it is to sample nearly any document on the hard drive.

call it an app if you want. it's still just a tap of the space bar.

there are no apps to run, no commands to type in (and correcting any typos) or anything else.

what have you got against simplicity and straightforward user interfaces?

I'm just trying to point out that your mac isn't some wonder machine that can do loads of things no one else can, it's just a computer and works like other computers. It's not magic.

true to an extent. although it is a computer, it does many things better than other computers and other things not as well. overall, the user experience is much better, a concept that is *totally* lost on you.

sid (8h & 43m)