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Re: Paintshop and Corel

Tony Cooper
SubjectRe: Paintshop and Corel
FromTony Cooper
Date2013-11-17 00:13 (2013-11-16 18:13)
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 20:40:35 -0800, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>wrote:

Tony Cooper
If he (Eric) is going to forego Lab Mode, he might as well use Elements. It's less than Lightroom and has sufficient editing tools.

He's made no mention of needing/wanting photo inventory control and the keyword feature, and that's the only significant advantage LR has over Elements, and Elements has some tools not found in LR.

Savageduck
...and LR has many features not found in Elements including the ACR8 engine and a very logical and smooth workflow.

Again, we are faced with opinions and personal preferences. Personally I have discovered a need for Lab mode (yet), for now I have all I need in RGB.

I have become quite comfortable working with LR and I can get 90% of what I need done with it. I know PSE is up to PSE11 now, but I have a copy of PSE9 and while one can certainly get most of what can be done in PS done in PSE, I am not particularly comfortable using the PSE UI. It is different enough from PS that I would only use it out of desperation. Also the crippled version of ACR found in PSE is not the same as ACR8 found in PS CC or LR5. For the Mac owner (that is the position I have to take here) that if pushed, I believe I would chose the Mac app, "Pixelmator" over PSE. For $30 it is a bargain, unfortunately, not available for Windows. < http://www.pixelmator.com >

I cannot say which would be best for a Windows machine as an alternative to Photoshop and/or Lightroom if I had to choose between a Corel product or PSE. That might be where PSE would get my vote.

Keep in mind that Eric is looking for *one* program because of his budget restrictions and Adobe's pricing system in Eric's location.

I don't see Lightroom as a stand-alone solution to image editing. It lacks the very essential feature of Layers. While LR's Develop module allows quite a bit of editing power, as far I'm concerned Adjustment Layers are an absolute must. A combination of LR and Elements would work for me, though, and that doesn't add much to the price in US$s.

There are a lot of photographers who make only the image adjustments that LR allows in Develop, but without Layers their growth in post is limited.

I just spent the day - 9 to 5 - in a Tim Gray seminar that was 99% on Lightroom5. While it encouraged me to try LR for certain images as my primary processing tool, the only reason I'd consider this is that I also have CS6 and can still use that in conjunction with LR.

-- Tony Cooper - Orlando FL