Google| Subject | Re: Reading LotR and the newsgroups |
| From | Shanahan |
| Date | 08/20/2004 23:34 (08/20/2004 14:34) |
| Message-ID | <cg5jv60n47@enews2.newsguy.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.fan.tolkien,rec.arts.books.tolkien |
| Follows | Conrad Dunkerson |
| Followups | Conrad Dunkerson (58m) |
Conrad Dunkerson <conrad.dunkerson@worldnet.att.net>creatively typed:
Conrad DunkersonThat's exactly what I wanted to know, thanks. I thought that the re-thinking T. did on re-birth would have made that essay a bit questionable. But on the matter of moral standards in the killing of Orcs, I can't think of any contradictory texts. Are there any that you know of?
" Shanahan" <pogues@bluefrog.com>wrote in message news:cg3jpg02dsc@enews1.newsguy.com...Shanahan
Here's a question for one of you text experts: I'm referring to the essay 'Of Re-Birth and Other Dooms of Those That Go to Mandos', in Later QS (II), in _Morgoth's Ring_.So, is that considered "canon" on this matter, or not?Conrad Dunkerson
Standards of 'canon' vary, but in general that text is not considered particularly authoritative because Tolkien subsequently repudiated the idea that Elves would be 'reborn as children with new parents'. Instead, he wrote in different places that they would instead be 're-embodied' as adults with the help of the Valar. So... more like their fea being put into a cloned body than being reincarnated in a newborn.
Ciaran S. -- A stiff apology is a second insult... The injured party does not want to be compensated because he has been wronged; he wants to be healed because he has been hurt. - g.k. chesterton
08/20/2004
