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Whisky-dave
SubjectRe: nospam still hiding in the tall grass (was: The closest we'll get to nospam admitting to an erro
FromWhisky-dave
Date2016-02-01 11:49 (2016-02-01 02:49)
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On Saturday, 30 January 2016 01:36:13 UTC, nospam wrote:

nospam
In article <45ce5641-71d7-4f1d-8a89-c6a53ed6fb00@googlegroups.com>, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com>wrote:

kodak filed for bankruptcy. saying film is dead is not wrong.

Whisky-dave
Doesn't make it dead, just less used than it was. The word dead has particualar uses perhaps you need to find a more apt word for film than dead.

nospam
it's an expression. only an idiot would take it literally.

Whisky-dave
Only a moron woud use the word dead to decribe such a thing.

nospam
it's common usage.

couldnt care less.

If something has a use then it's not dead. People use all sorts of words for emoptional effect some of us can see apast that. While film is still being made and used I don't condiser it dead. I've got a Macplus and Mac SE30 neither of which are dead.

<http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/28/10864034/windows-phone-is-dead> With a lack of hardware, lack of sales, and less than 2 percent market share, it's time to call it: Windows Phone is dead. 

Look up what the word "dead" really means. It really means no longer fuctioning not no ones buying or making it.

Whisky-dave
Analogue IS bettere than digital only someone that doesn;t understand digital would say something like that. You doi know that digital decribes an analogue signal chopped up into descrete pieces. You'd have to be really stupid to not understand that....

nospam
it's not chopped up into discrete pieces.

Yes it is. I thought you knew a little about anologue to digital conversion. lest test you which is 'best' if you want the best resolution a 4 bit D-A, 8 bit D-A, 12 bit D-A, 14 bit D-A, a 1028 bit D-A.

go learn something about sampling theory before you say more stupid shit.

go for it then.

Whisky-dave
this is why ACC is 'better' than MP3 and why loss-less is better than both. But there;s lots of peole liek you that think the MP3s they have are better than the original recording because they have beat headphones ot turn the bass up.

nospam
this isn't about lossy versus lossless. it's about digital versus analog.

Yes and anolugiue is best thast way the convert the reading your light meter give down to Digital value so it can be more easily used and stored.

Whisky-dave
Just like smartphones are better cameras than 'cameras' .

nospam
not every situation requires an slr. a smartphone fits into your pocket and is always with you.

Whisky-dave
So it;'s better than a DSLR is it ?

nospam
absolutely, when you don't have an slr. an slr doesn't fit in a pocket.

So back to talking shit again. To be expected.

the best camera is the one that you have with you.

well at least you got that right. But what if it's a film camera ? Is it still the best camera ?

Whisky-dave
Microphones are analogue devices.

nospam
nobody said otherwise.

So whatever sound you record will be anologue what you next do it digitise it.

the part that is nonsense is that nothing is thrown away when it's digitized.

I never said it was. But as you should know a 16 bit colour image is going to be better than a 8 bit one.

Whisky-dave
get yuorself a clue. http://www.mix-engineer.com/audio-philosophy/digital-vs-analog-recording/

Digital vs. Analog - Recording

When it comes to the recording process, analog gear will stay with us for a very long time. Even USB microphones have diaphragms and analog circuitry inside them. You obviously understand nothing.

nospam
i understand this far more than you ever will.

Yeah sure.

usb microphones are digital devices because they have an a/d in them.

Are they silver in in colour too, if you paint them gold then they are gold microphones aren't they ?

Microphones are analogue. You can put D-A on the end of one, just like camera sensors do with light.

this isn't about lossy compression, it's about digital versus analog.

Whisky-dave
Yes and analogue is better, it might NOT be cheaper or smaller size or more convient but that not important in deciding which is best.

nospam
analog cannot be better.

Then explain why ?