Alan Baker
In article <km2gbh$pst$1@tota-refugium.de>, Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@laszlomail.com>wrote:

Laszlo Lebrun
On 5/4/13 8:30 AM, Alan Baker wrote:

You are not really asking as an OSX expert, are you? iTunes became a huge advertising bazaar, unfortunately it's the mandatory single point of contact with any iOS device, call it improvement, I have another opinion, and i am not alone.

Alan Baker
Present one. I use iTunes to sync my iPhone and iPad, and I never see any ads.

Laszlo Lebrun
Killing a start button

Alan Baker
This is not an example of Apple software doing "the opposite" of improving.

Laszlo Lebrun
Of Apple? I did not even know they had a Start button!

Alan Baker
Precisely. I asked for list of ways that Apple's software has done the opposite of improve and you listed the start button.

Laszlo Lebrun
Apple software, but also Microsoft and Canonical.

Hmm you appear to have overlooked the half of my sentence so let's reintroduce it for you: ...especially with Apple software, but also Microsoft and Canonical.

Alan Baker
And why do you imagine that I would be interested in anything but examples of how APPLE's software has done the opposite of improve; examples you've yet to actually give, BTW.

Laszlo Lebrun
Stopping support for hardware etc...

Alan Baker
Which has nothing to do with whether or not the software has improved.

Laszlo Lebrun
Oh! You could have worked for Apple! Don't you hear all the complaints?

Alan Baker
How does that address what I said?

Laszlo Lebrun
but you know that do you, you just have been asking to troll isn't it?

Alan Baker
Look in a mirror.

Laszlo Lebrun
Sandman and the OP called them exclusively smart folders, so logically one would in the help search for "smart folders", which returns nothing since Apple call them "smart mailboxes".

Alan Baker
What Sandman or the OP called them is irrelevant to the fact that the actual SOFTWARE only calls them "smart mailboxes".

Laszlo Lebrun
To that fact, sure. To our discussion not.

Alan Baker
Try again. Use English.

Laszlo Lebrun
So just again for you: If a long thread one only speaks of "smart folders" that suddenly become "smart mailboxes" that might not be relevant "to the fact that the actual SOFTWARE only calls them smart mailboxes". This fact is objective and nothing influences it.

Alan Baker
Right. Hence your claim that the software was inconsistent is nonsense.

Laszlo Lebrun
With respect to a discussion, it makes well a difference if the smart folders, that some were claiming to be the solution, are in fact called smart mailboxes in the software.

Alan Baker
Right. But you claimed the software was internally inconsistent on this.

Laszlo Lebrun
"so logically one would in the help search for "smart folders", which returns nothing since Apple call them "smart mailboxes".

That was the very point of Sandyflea pretending to have substantiated his claim while he did only throw a *wrong* word in the discussion.

Alan Baker
You tried to use the fact that Jonas used the wrong term to pretend the SOFTWARE was worse in some way.