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Re: The Most Advanced OS of...

Alan Baker
SubjectRe: The Most Advanced OS of the World...
FromAlan Baker
Date2013-05-03 18:39 (2013-05-03 09:39)
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FollowupsLaszlo Lebrun (1h & 22m) > Alan Baker

In article <km0huk$fmf$1@tota-refugium.de>, Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@laszlomail.com>wrote:

Laszlo Lebrun
On 5/3/13 1:09 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

Alan Baker
In article <klvk32$7tq$1@tota-refugium.de>, Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@laszlomail.com>wrote:

Laszlo Lebrun
On 5/3/13 2:53 AM, Alan Baker wrote:

Alan Baker
In article <kls1ld$bpt$1@tota-refugium.de>, Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@laszlomail.com>wrote:

Laszlo Lebrun
On 5/1/13 10:46 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

Alan Baker
In article <klruke$21u$1@tota-refugium.de>, Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@laszlomail.com>wrote:

Laszlo Lebrun
On 05/01/2013 10:25 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

Alan Baker
In article <klrtfd$tsa$1@tota-refugium.de>, Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@laszlomail.com>wrote:

Laszlo Lebrun
...won't come with OSX 10.9 neither.

The wish-list ist long: "Let's hope iOS Mail gets some long overdue features like smart folders. The inability to filter the view for unread messages is ridiculous in a 6th generation mail app."

Hmm that was not my wordings... just picked up from unsatisfied Mac users.

Alan Baker
You're the one who conflated (go ahead and look it up) Mac OS X and iOS...

Laszlo Lebrun
I'm not in the shoes of the OP, don't know if he really meant iOS or OSX. I did not spend a lot of time with Mail, but "The inability to filter the view for unread messages is ridiculous in a 6th generation mail app." seems to apply to OSX Mail, don't it?

Alan Baker
No. Because I know for a fact that Mac OS X Mail has that capability.

You chose who to quote, Laszlo.

Laszlo Lebrun
Just out of slight curiosity: would you mind to explain how to filter unread? You are the guy pretending one should substantiate each claim.

Alan Baker
Sure.

I type a "u" in the search box "u" and a pop-up menu appears with a list of choices, but the list is a little long, so I type an "n" followed "rea" at which point the pop-up menu contains these choices:

' Message contains "unrea"' '-------------------------' 'Mailboxes' ' Unread Mail' '-------------------------' 'Status' ' Message is Unread'

Both the "Mailboxes" and the "Status" are grey text which cannot be selected, so I type two down arrows and my messages are filtered to only those that are unread.

Laszlo Lebrun
Thank you Alan, that did not work as you described with Version 4.2 (1078), as searching for "unrea" does not display any of the 32 messages yet unread, although "Inbox" & "Entire Message" were selected. *Even if it worked that way: how unintuitive it were!*

Imagine that: the application gains new and better features with the passage of time. And using the Search box is quite intuitive to those who use Macs, Laszlo. Since it is in virtually every application that can display multiple items, be they emails, files, pages, one quickly learns that the advanced searching in Mac OS X is something you should at least try.

But upon that try, the search displays now a button "Save", where the search term is passed as the name of a new smart folder, for which a filtering on "Message is Unread" can be chosen from the matching criterias. Finally yes, you can get it to some extend.

The sort on status does not sort unread, as of Version 4.2.

Again: software is improved with successive versions. This is unsurprising.

On pretty much every other decent Mail software, you just select -as expected- "unread" in the view menu and it will filter the read messages right out of the original folders. Finito!

And in Mac Mail 5.3 (my version) it's also on the menu:

View:Sort By:Unread

Which is almost precisely how Thunderbird 17.0.5 does it, BTW. (View:Sort by:Read)

Finally & to add to a totally perfect confusion: from the menu, the "smart folders" are called "smart mailboxes"?

In what way is that confusion? Where are they called anything else?

Wow, just wow!

-- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."