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Re: Laguna Seca is booked!

Nashton
SubjectRe: Laguna Seca is booked!
FromNashton
Date2012-03-28 21:26 (2012-03-28 16:26)
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On 03-26-12 8:16 PM, -hh wrote:

-hh
On Mar 26, 5:12 pm, ed<n...@atwistedweb.com>wrote:

ed
On Monday, March 26, 2012 1:21:59 PM UTC-7, Alan Baker wrote:

Alan Baker
In article <17724968.78.1332792055720.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynlw24>, ed<n...@atwistedweb.com>wrote:

ed
On Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:45:57 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:

-hh
On Mar 25, 7:44 pm, Alan Baker<alangba...@telus.net>wrote:

Alan Baker
In article <11271714.1050.1332717880322.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfy7>,

ed<n...@atwistedweb.com>wrote:

ed
On Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:26:31 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:

-hh
On Mar 25, 3:39 pm, ed<n...@atwistedweb.com>wrote:

ed
On Saturday, March 24, 2012 8:15:04 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote:

-hh
On Mar 24, 10:28 pm, Nashton<n...@na.ca>wrote:

Nashton
On 12-03-24 3:23 PM, -hh wrote:

-hh
On Mar 24, 12:03 pm, Nashton<n...@na.ca>wrote:

Nashton
On 12-03-24 10:31 AM, -hh wrote:

-hh
On Mar 24, 6:17 am, Nashton<n...@na.ca>wrote:

Alan Baker
On 12-03-23 5:43 AM, AD wrote:

Fun to see suv driver's faces when you roar past them in a low displacement 4 pot compact :^]

They wouldn't be roaring past me in my SUV ;)

-hh
SUV? Well, there's YA sign of overcompensation.

ed
...

-hh
I can recall my SUV days...

ed
...

-hh
An unfounded opinion based on no data. It was a Suburban with optional engine upgrade, optional fuel tank, towing package, etc. It outclassed the Toyota of its day in every category...well, except for fuel pump reliability :-)

ed
so you were saying something about suv's and overcompensation but you had one with the engine upgrade, tow package... something you trying to admit there... :)

-hh
Its called "right tool for the job", and when the job went away, so did that class of vehicle.

ed
Of course - everyone else is overcompensating but you, you were just being smart. ;D

Alan Baker
That actually is a possibility, isn't it?

-hh
I'll leave it up to Ed to commit to picking a date for when SUVs became a fad.

ed
ah, i get it- you were one of the cool kids who had one before they were popular, so it's ok that you had one. everyone who got one later is a poseur, eh? :D

Alan Baker
No.

ed
pedantic, aren't you? ;P

-hh
Beats projecting.

Alan Baker
Quite obviously, he had one when he NEEDED one.

ed
quite obviously, the mention of a timeline for when it's a fad is something he thinks is relevant, otherwise why bring it up, right? :P

-hh
It doesn't absolutely resolve the objective question of 'need', but its a pretty reliable indicator.

And yet, you have been presented with a list of needs this vehicle fulfills for yours truly and are still disputing it by presenting articles from a distant past, as far as 4WD tech goes with nary a mention of....SUVs.

This is material of high comedy.

As I said before you wrote the above:

"SUV's had been ~5% of the market for decades ... but then suddenly took off in marketshare...

...despite *NO* increase in sales of camping trailers, despite *NO* increase in sales of boats (boating trailers), despite *NO* increase in family size, *NO* huge shift in global warming causing worse winter blizzards, etc, etc, etc."

Which can mean many things but you're hell bent on explaining this by alleging that users are simply victims of marketing and that the increase in market share is unrelated to anything but.

More comic relief.

ed
and no, for the record i don't have a suv. :D

-hh
If I really had a need for one, I'd have one. I don't see any need to get simply as a superfluous embellishment of ego, or as a toy (my tastes differ for that), nor for the current lame excuses which are today usually irrational insecurities and other elements of compensation.

Perhaps you're rationalizing the fact that you can't...afford one? Who knows?

If you want a translation for that, it is that if I needed it as a tool, I'd get one and call it a tool and if I wanted one as a toy, I'd get one and call it a toy. But I'm not going to buy a toy and try to rationalize that I 'needed' a tool...that's self-delusion.

Except that nothing seems to convince you that it does fulfill my needs. How can anybody expect any objectivity from you if when you jump to unwarranted conclusions (digs?) as to whether it's leased or bought, whether living in a region with one of the highest snowfall in North America does not make it a prime choice for transportation and the fact, to boot, that I need to transport many people with gear to events and venues?

You're a clown.

-hh

-hh (2h & 56m)