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?jevind L?ng
SubjectRe: Reading LotR and the newsgroups (was Re: Don't aspire to succeed - that right belongs to America
From?jevind L?ng
Date08/21/2004 23:27 (08/21/2004 23:27)
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Christopher Kreuzer
?jevind L?ng <dnivejo.gnal@swipnet.se>wrote:

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Quotes from 'In the House of Tom Bombadil', 'Many Partings', 'The Great River' (Legolas on time), 'Lothlorien', and 'The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen' spring to mind. But there are so many!

?jevind L?ng
This one, for example:

Together the Elf and the Dwarf entered Minas Tirith,

Christopher Kreuzer
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?jevind L?ng
If Aragorn comes into his own, the people of the Wood shall bring him birds that sing and trees that do not die."

Christopher Kreuzer
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Those weren't really the sort of quote I was thinking about. They are OK, but not among my favourite.

What I particularly like about this particular quote is the sidelight it throws on the characters of Gimli and Legolas. Gimli says: "When Aragorn comes into his own"; Legolas says "*if* Aragorn comes into his own".

I was thinking more of something like

this (just a few paragraphs later):

Gimli [on Men]: "It is ever so with the things that Men begin: there is a frost in Spring or a blight in Summer, and they fail of their promise."

Legolas: "Yet seldom do they fail of their seed. And that will lie in the dust and rot to spring up again in times and places unlooked for. The deeds of Men will outlast us, Gimli."

Gimli: "And yet come to naught in the end but might-have-beens, I guess"

Legolas: "To that the Elves know not the answer."

That is one of my favourite passages too.

And a bit later, Legolas tells of the moment he heard the seagulls:

"But deep in the hearts of all my kindred lies the sea-longing, which it is perilous to stir. Alas! for the gulls. No peace shall I have again under beech or under elm."

That is very gripping. Do you remember where in the book there is a mention of "the cries of sea-birds who vanished from the world ages ago"? I can't recall it.

?jevind