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David Flood
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FromDavid Flood
Date2002-04-15 02:21 (2002-04-15 01:21)
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"94haley" <mbeach@mindspring.com>wrote in message news:bc52685c.0204141646.4f03819@posting.google.com...

94haley
paulh <paulh@fahncahn.com>wrote in message

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paulh
On 14 Apr 2002 14:19:45 GMT, mcresq@aol.com (Russ) wrote:

Russ
In article <2e4ibu412v1n1bqpmqrjm7dvm7ktvqlg9k@4ax.com>, paulh <paulh@fahncahn.com>writes:

Anyway...what civilians are being brutalized? The same civilians, a

vast

majority of which, support and condone suicide bombers?

paulh
How do you know how many support it? You're just making that up. And are you saying it's ok to brutalise an entire population as long

as 51%

support the terrorist activities of a portion of that population? Or

do you

need 66%? I need to know what percentage is required before one can

brutalise an

opposing community..

Russ
"According to a poll conducted among Palestinian adults from the Gaza

Strip and

the West Bank including East Jerusalem at the end of May by Dr. Nabil

Kukali

and the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion (PCPO), "a substantial

majority

(76.1%) support suicidal attacks like that of Netanya [in May], whereas

12.5%

oppose, and 11.4% express no opinion."

paulh
So you're saying that once 76.1% of the community supports terror

tactics then

the other side is permitted to do whatever it wants with complete moral impunity?

94haley
Should we not have bombed Japan and Germany during WW 2? We were destroying their ability to fight then, and the Israelis are destroying the ability of their opponents to fight as well. Lest you forget women and children have killed people recently, so if they see a woman, how are they to know whether or not she is a combatant?? When she starts shooting, or when she blows herself up when she gets close enough? And ambulances have benn known to carry supplies and terrorists, so I wouldn't let them in either, until the area was secured. I wouldn't be surprised if the terrorists shot up an ambulance, and the blamed the Israelis.

Uh-huh.

Here, at the moment, we have an inquiry running into an infamous massacre of civil rights demonstrators in Derry some thirty years ago.

And, against an incredible amount of eyewitness and material evidence that says otherwise, the British state and military are still claiming pretty much the same incredible scenario that you're describing (in which the dead - unarmed - civilians were shot dead through their 'own' fault), but which no impartial observer would believe for a second.

D.