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Yuk Tang
SubjectRe: Reading LotR and the newsgroups (was Re: Don't aspire to succeed - that right belongs to America
FromYuk Tang
Date08/17/2004 21:42 (08/17/2004 21:42)
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"?jevind L?ng" <dnivejo.gnal@swipnet.se>wrote in news:DApUc.16561$qn2.2912@nntpserver.swip.net:

?jevind L?ng
"Laurie Forbes" <moc.rr.eniam@1sebrofr>skrev i meddelandet news:oZnUc.152098$bp1.115780@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

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Laurie Forbes
You've seen someone diss *Faramir*??? I like him very much - in an "I'd like to know him or be like him" way

?jevind L?ng
Some who have posted here apparently mistook fairness and an interest in learning for wimpishness, even though we get to see quite a bit of Faramir's decisiveness and valour in battle. It's the Dirty Harry mentality doing its evil work.

A Numenorean who is also human, with their attendant weaknesses and (more importantly) their strengths. And I'm not talking about his martial ability, either. A little slice of the best of the Edain in the First Age. Tuor, perhaps?

Laurie Forbes
- and also Pippin, as you blabbed above. For characters who live and breathe as a "technical skills" (on Tolkien's part) accomplishment, I choose Denethor. I also like the

?jevind L?ng
glimpse

Laurie Forbes
of Imrahil.

?jevind L?ng
Agree about the masterly resentation of Denethor.

IMO the most interesting character in LotR, especially when his history in the Appendices is taken into account. A Second Age equivalent would be Tar-Minastir, well-meaning and highly able, but overtaken by the ego-trip of heading a powerful nation. Or perhaps from the First Age, Turin, a gifted character consumed by character flaws and circumstances.

-- Cheers, ymt.