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Tony Cooper
SubjectRe: Will Tony apologize? (was: Re: Colonial Photo & Hobby)
FromTony Cooper
Date04/23/2014 19:11 (04/23/2014 13:11)
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FollowupsSandman (1h & 27m) > Tony Cooper

On 23 Apr 2014 15:54:42 GMT, Sandman <mr@sandman.net>wrote:

Sandman
In article <oakfl9dqv8ud7mja1lmtlbg6phk8p1b6mb@4ax.com>, Tony Cooper wrote:

Why can't you read? Your question is still quoted above:

"Why did you write this?"

That's you asking a question about my motives.

Tony Cooper
I asked why you wrote this particular statement.

Sandman
I.e. my motive for writing that particular statement. You just can't let anything go. If you can argue about it, then you will.

Tony Cooper
Your "motives" are a broader category of reason and involve a plan or a recurring impetus to do something.

Sandman
So "motive" is yet another word illiterate Tony doesn't understand.

Oh, dear. More shallow thinking and running with the wrong definition.

So you think "motive" is a synonym for "reason" and can be used interchangeably with that word?

In the sentence "What's your reason for inviting John to the wedding?" would you use the word "motive" in place of "reason"? The reason may be that John is a cousin, but there is no motive involved. If "motive" was used, there's a clear connotation that some plan is suspected.

That's where you fail in English. You don't understand the appropriateness of certain words in certain context. The word may be an appropriate substitute in one context, but not in another.

Most learners of a second language accept the input of native speakers and adjust their future usage. Some are even appreciative of the input. You, however, defend your inappropriate usage and claim the native speaker is illiterate.

I did not choose the sobriquet "Popinjay" for you without reason.

Tony Cooper
I note that you have still not explained what you meant.

Sandman
Of course not. Had you asked from the beginning, I could have told you. But you didn't ask, you said:

"I don't think that a business feels that optimizing profitability is a "shame"."

And when I replied by explicitly telling you that I never said it was, you replied with:

"When you deny something, do try for some plausibility."

Clearly saying that me saying "Which is a shame" meant that I think that a business thinks it's a shame to optimize profitability.

Re-writing history are you now? Just lying?

Here's the exchange:

Tony Cooper: "Some lament that Colonial does not discount accessory items or have sales other than factory-sponsored specials, but that's not a size issue."

Sandman: "Naturally. But that's a shame."

Optimizing profitability hadn't come into the discussion yet. Discounting items does not optimize profitability anyway.

That was followed by you reiterating the observation saying it is a shame to make a business decision to not discount accessory items.

Tony Cooper: "Some lament that Colonial does not discount accessory items or have sales other than factory-sponsored specials, but that's not a size issue."

Sandman: "Naturally. But that's a shame."

Tony Cooper "No, it's a business decision."

Sandman "Which is a shame."

I introduced "optimizing profitability" in a later post, and you brought one of your weird uses and called it "maximum capacity" as if the store was a container to be filled.

So there was never a question from you.

Another lie. I later asked: "What, then, am I to take from your statement "Which is a shame"? Who is shamed? What is the reason for the shame? Why did you write this?"

You just said I denied your whacky interpretation and that was the end of it. If you instead had gone "Oh, so what did you mean by shame then",

See above.

then you would have been an adult and would have been treated as such and had gotten a response.

Obviously not.

Tony Cooper
Just substantiate why it's a shame that the store doesn't discount accessory products and put an end to it.

Sandman
See, you didn't even understand just what part "is a shame" was in reference to - now you're talking about "accessory products" when that's not what I was talking about initially.

Bullshit. Another lie. "Accessory products" is in the post where "...that's a shame" appeared the first time. I've quoted it above. It's in the paragraph you responded to. If you are not responding to what's in that paragraph, what in the world would you be responding to?

You continue to shovel faster and the hole gets deeper.

-- Tony Cooper - Orlando FL

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