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Re: Ping Owl: More examples...

Marek Novotny
SubjectRe: Ping Owl: More examples of "window 1"
FromMarek Novotny
Date09/22/2016 07:01 (09/22/2016 05:01)
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On 2016-09-22, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>wrote:

Snit
On 9/21/16, 9:28 PM, in article qqadnXeWcaRwwH7KnZ2dnUU7-e3NnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>wrote:

Marek Novotny
On 2016-09-22, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>wrote:

Snit
On 9/21/16, 9:00 PM, in article 2oSdnYXuFpLFyn7KnZ2dnUU7-LvNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>wrote:

Marek Novotny
On 2016-09-22, Octavian W. Lagrange <olagrang@perch.invalid>wrote:

Octavian W. Lagrange
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>wrote:

Snit
OK, created / ran some scripts to show you the concept of window 1.

<https://youtu.be/PyKpARhOz4Y>

Octavian W. Lagrange
LOL!

Marek Novotny
I thought we covered the concept of Windows 1 a million times already.

Snit
We had... but Owl was STILL confused.

Marek Novotny
The whole point was NOT to do it that way...

Snit
Owl added that LONG after the first challenge. But if you do not want to reference them that way then don't:

<https://youtu.be/jcPUmwritV8>

Marek Novotny
Finally.

This is what Owl showed the very first time.

Snit
No it is not. Not even close. Not the same program, same OS, same scripting language, scripting model, commands, or results!

But, hey, feel free to make up things as you wish!

I am sure there are better ways. Only way I could find with the few minutes of trying right now was to create the window and then immediately get the ID. It is theoretically possible for another process to "slip in" during that fraction of a second.

But the original task was just to set up windows... which I did. No mention of anyone trying to stop you!

Marek Novotny
Nope, we all pretty much knew you'd turn this into a circus.

Snit
LOL! I went FAR out of my way to help Owl understand a concept he was struggling with -- what was meant by "window 1." As predicted you are trolling me over it.

You cannot help yourself.

...

Marek Novotny
I think you made this clear as a bell a hundred times. And he's still focusing on this same stupid thing over and over again.

Snit
Owl repeatedly got confused by what was meant by "window 1" -- so I made this thread to help him.

And, of course, you and he troll me over it. It is what you do.

Marek Novotny
I don't think he was confused at all.

Snit
He repeatedly asked about what "window 1" meant, why more than one instance was not opened, etc. He was clueless about what was happening. Which is fine... but why do you and he have to troll over it?

He was ignorant of something and sought to learn. That should be commended. His trolling should not be.

Marek Novotny
In fact I'd say quite the opposite.

Snit
Right: you would say things that are not true. You would troll. You ARE doing those things. You seem unable to help yourself.

Marek Novotny
Without having any AppleScript experience at all he rightly predicted the problem you'd have.

Snit
The problem he created with his moving of goal posts once it was explained to him. Sure.

Marek Novotny
It took Sandman to come in and provide you with enough hints to correct the issue Owl rightly predicted you'd have with your approach.

Snit
A direct lie on your part.

Marek Novotny
But as usual, we can tally this as yet another lie on your part to turn a simple task into a circus.

Snit
A direct lie on your part.

Honestly, Michael Glasser, I think you're an idiot... A circus clown. Think what you want.

-- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny

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