Google| Subject | Re: Question for Sandman about web design |
| From | Sandman |
| Date | 04/26/2007 09:10 (04/26/2007 09:10) |
| Message-ID | <mr-A6267F.09103126042007@News.Individual.NET> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Follows | Snit |
| Followups | Snit (3m) > Sandman Nasht0n (11h) > Sandman |
In article <C2559AD5.7E807%CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>wrote:
SnitSnit Objective Troll Criteria Summary ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 [ ] Obfuscation 2 [X] Antagonizing threads 3 [ ] Ignoring evidence 4 [ ] Antagonizing through other media 5 [ ] Quote-scavanging 6 [ ] Thread hijacking 7 [ ] Projection 8 [ ] Unsubstantiated accusations 9 [ ] Unsubstantiated "refutations" 10 [ ] Forging posts and material 11 [ ] Insults 12 [ ] Role Reversal 13 [X] Lying 14 [X] Having an agenda 15 [ ] Diversion 16 [ ] Misinterpretation 17 [ ] Creative snipping ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really for Sandman or any other web pros or even folks with decent experience... but it is about Sandman's sites:
2. Antagonizing threads ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember, a troll needs attention to his trolling, so whenever he is in a lengthy thread arguing only with this one poster, the troll is likely to break out of that thread and start another thread that will be one way to evade the first thread and also draw more attention from more people. An example of this is this thread [1] where Michael creates a completely new thread which is totally off topic and an off-spring of a length discussion he's had with Steve and Elizabot.
1:<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ba8f510705b 642d3>
13. Lying ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Obfuscating is the act of twisting words and meanings around so they mean something else than what they were intended for. Lying is making false statements. Both are untrue, but they differ in execution.
A troll often has no option other than to lie in order to further his agenda. Especially when he's lost all arguments.
A good example of this is when Edwin quoted Sandman saying something [1], using quotation marks. Problem was, that this wasn't something Sandman had ever said. Or when Michael listed five outright lies about Sandman [2].
1:<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dcdac1dd28f 153bf> 2:<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c410d8e2a3d 60683>
14. Having an agenda ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A troll always have an agenda, a goal or a motive. Something that drives the troll. This is very apparent when the troll hijacks threads [1] or when he is creating antagonizing threads [2].
Without the agenda, the troll has no purpose. The Agenda is not static, however, and evolves along the way when the troll finds new objective, enemies or issues to incorporate into the Agenda.
1:<http://csma.sandman.net/texter/read.php?id=91362> 2:<http://csma.sandman.net/texter/read.php?id=91358>
---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Objective Troll Criteria http://csma.sandman.net/TrollCriteria ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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04/26/2007-
