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SubjectRe: Snit Socks Coming Out Of The Wood Work
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Date12/01/2015 01:28 (11/30/2015 17:28)
Message-ID<D28237D2.659B2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
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On 11/30/15, 5:19 PM, in article n3ioui$dla$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer" <.m@nsn.s>wrote:

Slimer
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On 2015-11-30 5:40 PM, Sandman wrote:

Sandman
In article <D281FDBC.65921%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit wrote:

I haven't got the medical/psychiatric expertise to talk about anxiety in any capacity, but I do agree that it's a sign of poor character to let a mental illness affect people around you in a negative manner.

Snit
And, let me guess, a sign of poor character for someone with MS to have to use a wheelchair? After all, a "real man" can walk for himself!

Really, the level of ignorance you are showing here is amazing!

Sandman
I bet, since the "level of ignorance" was expressed by you and you alone.

Slimer
I love how Michael Glasser Prescott Usenet Troll is willing to debate psychological matters with me, disregarding the fact that I was so gifted in the field that my CÉGEP professors basically gave me their referrals and begged me to become a psychologist. If anything, I am better-equipped to speak on the matter than he is. If I say that PTSD is not anxiety, it isn't.

Ah, if you say it. Wow. Such strong evidence. Meanwhile let us look at reality:

<http://www.adaa.org/understanding-anxiety/DSM-5-changes> ----- Anxiety and Depression Refinements Much has remained the same in the areas of anxiety and depression, with refinements of criteria and symptoms across the lifespan. Some disorders included in the broad category of anxiety disorders are now in three sequential chapters: Anxiety Disorders, Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorders, and Trauma- and Stressor-Related Disorders. This move emphasizes the distinctiveness of each category while signaling their interconnectedness. -----

Even in the DSM-5, which has redefined things some, the "broad category of anxiety disorders" includes Trauma- and Stressor-Related Disorders, which of course includes PTSD.

But really this is getting into nit-picking silliness. Even if it was not categorized in the newest DSM this way, Slimer's comments would be no less ignorant and absurd. He started by saying someone with morals and values would not "submit" to anxiety... which is as ignorant as saying someone with morals and values would not "submit" to MS. He also said:

Slimer: ----- I'm not saying that he should "get over it," I'm saying that real men wouldn't even be affected by things such as anxiety. ----- Those are his EXACT words. Completely indefensible.

No updated definition in the DSM are ever going to make his comments any less ignorant. So why did he make them? Ah, for that we can see where he blamed me for vague things where he:

* Points to no specific comment of mine. Of course not, for he knows I defend my comments well (and has stated so in the past).

* Says I use some health issue of mine to "excuse" some comment in COLA, though he gives no example of my EVER doing so (or having any such need, given how even he has noted I defend my views well).

Slimer made a similar mistake as Carroll did when he claimed that I, a teacher, do not have a "real job". He later back-pedaled and claimed teaching, which is what I do, IS a "real job" but then somehow decided that when I do it then it ceases to be one or some such nonsense. Slimer shoved his foot down his throat in a similar way on this one.

Sandman
If you know you're not feeling well you should take extra care to not let this affect the ones that are around you.

Snit
If a service member who is suffering from PTSD and this impacts their life in a severe way is merely "not feeling well" and should make sure it does not affect anyone else.

Sandman
Indeed. It should be in any person's interest not see him- or herself as a victim and let others suffer from it.

A lot of people with PTSD (which isn't exclusive to former soldiers) turn to drugs and alcohol, severely worsening their state and the life of those around them, instead of getting medical and psychological treatment to help them deal with their situation in the way that benefits them, and the ones in their life the most.

PTSD (or other mental problems) isn't a choice, it's how you live with it that's the choice. Taking responsibility for your own actions is the first step to getting to grips with the situation. Realizing that you cannot blame your mental illness for treating others bad is another. If you suffer from PTSD, you deserve all the help and treatment that is available to you, but if you treat people bad, they will not want to help you, and you end up alienating others which in turn makes matters worse for yourself.

Slimer
Except that Michael Glasser Prescott Usenet Troll does not have PTSD.

A claim you make have NO clue if it is true or not.

Walking in as his dad was fucking his mom up her ass does not cause such things.

Wow... you are getting more insecure by the day!

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