Google| Subject | Re: Will Tony apologize?? (was: Re: Colonial Photo & Hobby) |
| From | Sandman |
| Date | 05/02/2014 18:09 (05/02/2014 18:09) |
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In article <fha7m99icublkq6ai61sklcoevb6bmsqfr@4ax.com>, Andreas Skitsnack wrote:
I didn't. I didn't emphasize the word correct, I used it accordingly to point number 4: unusual usage. I.e. I used the word "correct" (point 5, word reference) and put quotation marks around it to signify that the word "correct" shouldn't be used, since the basis of the comment was to let you know that there may be no correct word.Sandman
1. Quotation He said "Can I help?"2. Speech "Who goes there?", said the captain.3. Irony Very nice "slippers" you've got there.4. Unusual usage Flowers seem to "know" where the sun is5. Word-reference "standard" is a word of many meanings6. Titles of artistic works "Lord of the Rings" is a fantastic book7. Nicknames Jonas "Sandman" EklundhAs you should know by now, the quote above falls into the "unusual usage" category, where a word is used to describe something, but isn't necessarily accurate. It is often used when someone want to explain something in laymen terms for instance. Or when you can't find or don't know the correct word. Or maybe there ISN'T a "correct" word.Tony Cooper
Why have you used "emphasis quotes" around "correct" when you have just provided a list of instances where quotation marks are to be used?
You should have used asterisks if you follow your own advice.No, only if I wanted to emphasize the word. There is a world of difference between these to statements:
1. You have to use the "correct" word. 2. You have to use the *correct* word.
The first example is in reference to you having to use a word, that may not technically be correct, but for the scenario at hand, it may be the one that is most applicable.
The second example signifies that there is a correct word, and you have to use it. Some examples of usage:
Emphasis: Andreas: Open sessimie! Sandman: No, you have to use the *correct* word!
- I am telling you that there is a correct word and you must use it.
Unusual usage: Andreas: The thingamajig won't work! Sandman: I can't help you unless you use the "correct" word
- I am telling you that the word you used wasn't satisfactory, and there may not be one that is correct, but certainly one that works better than "thingamajig".
Indeed he did, but not by emphasising it. Just referencing it.Tony CooperAlso, here's an example of Arnold using quotation marks for emphasis in a post in the newsgroup sci.lang:http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.lang/2006-04/msg00993.htmlwhere he says: [quote] yes. "idiom" is the term wanted here...[/quote] Not asterisks, you'll note.Sandman
No emphasis. This falls under the Word-reference category.
Yes, emphasis. He is emphasizing that "idiom" is the *correct* word for this usage.
Andreas: Open sessimie! Sandman: It's *sesame*
Andreas: The thingamajig won't work Sandman: I think you mean that "door" doesn't work?
Emphasis, word reference.
Incorrect.SandmanTony Cooper
He doesn't.
I provided - what do you call it? - *substantiation* of his use.
You've attempted to provide a smoke screen for your ignorance, but - once again - failed miserably. "Word-reference" has no established meaning for Usenet posting style. "Emphasis quote" and "scare quote" do have an established meaning in this venue.And those that use it are usually called illiterate. That's the point, Andreas.
-- Sandman[.net]
04/14/2014-
