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Eric Stevens
SubjectRe: Will Tony apologize? (was: Re: Colonial Photo & Hobby)
FromEric Stevens
Date04/28/2014 23:05 (04/29/2014 09:05)
Message-ID<8jgtl99u98q9b7cl3vbumrjjj60au2c3hv@4ax.com>
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On 28 Apr 2014 08:53:44 GMT, Sandman <mr@sandman.net>wrote:

Sandman
In article <g44sl954pvo898tikn4shkpqassdp4221e@4ax.com>, Eric Stevens wrote:

Eric Stevens
From then on persons B, C, D etc have to that specific thing.

Sandman
Use it in an example.

Eric Stevens
I want security on my computer.

Sandman
I.e. you *desire* security, security isn't required of you. It's something you want. Fine, good use of the word "want" there!

Eric Stevens
I have set it up so it is requirement that all users have to log in with a password.

Sandman
I.e. "all users" are required to submit a password, and it's not something they "want".

Now, remember the quote from Andreas:

"A requirement is what you want to do"

Eric Stevens
You go away and argue with Tony about his definition. You asked me to give an example ilustrating the situation I put forward in Message-ID: <p3jol956vjcke7rn76b8chgmgoqkkahhvo@4ax.com>and that is what I have done.

Sandman
Yes, and a very good example that shows that Tony used the word incorrectly, which was my point. A requirement is not what you want to do, which your example clearly shows.

It is if I am person A.

And see how it differs from your examples. You're describing the scenario of "My desires may lead to added requirements", which is fine, but Andreas had it on backwards. He's saying "A = B" while you're saying "B ~>A"

Eric Stevens
That's your interpretation. I think it is the beginning of a cloud of squink.

Sandman
Of course, since it's fact and logic.

Eric Stevens
From when I did that persons B, C, D etc have to log into my computer with a password if they want to use it.

Sandman
See how what they WANT to do is "use the computer", not "enter a password".

Desire - Something you want to do. Requirement - Something you have to do.

Eric Stevens
Thick or deliberately confusing.

Sandman
I.e. plain English.

I love it when you post something and after the fact you realize that you agreed with me 100% and it really messes with your mind.

Like when you respond to Tony thinking that you're responding to me and complain about what he says. :)

Vanity on your part. --

Regards,

Eric Stevens