nospam
In article <150420141050070001%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>wrote:

Tony Cooper
I think, based on a comment by you some time ago, I did check a Best Buy and found one of 24 that wouldn't turn on and reported that information here. I wouldn't call that "often".

nospam
you think wrong.

Tony Cooper
Well, you consider 4-point-something percent of the display models to be without a battery to be enough to be "often", so that shows your aptitude in assessing a problem. It does cast doubt on your use of "numerous", though.

nospam
where did you come up with 4.something% ? oh yea, your ass.

Tony Cooper
24 cameras on display, 1 non-working (presumably w/o battery) >>>4.something percent non-working. An even 4% would be less than one unit.

nospam
there were way more than 24 cameras on display at the best buys i've been at and i didn't check every single camera to see if every single one was functional, therefore any numbers you pull from your ass are going to be incorrect (not that there was any doubt).

there were probably 4-5 slrs (don't remember) and i only looked at slrs and of those, just nikon and canon. i don't know (nor care) how many of the compacts were functional but based on my experience, there were likely to be several that had one problem or another.

i'd estimate that in somewhere around half the visits, there is at least one problem camera on display, either visually, such as missing a lens or otherwise obviously broken, or something wrong in actual testing, such as with a dead battery or otherwise non-functional.

so it's not 4%.

i happened to be near a best buy today and had some time to spare so i stopped to check the cameras, phones and computers.

they had 6 nikon slrs, one of which (a d7100) had no lens which made it non-functional and all i could do was look at its menus. the same thing happened a few years ago with a d7000 (at a different best buy).

i didn't count how many canons there were, but the 60d didn't work properly. the 70d did, as did a rebel.

all of the slrs had a cable running out of the battery compartment, which eliminates one failure mode. however, the compacts did not and of the couple i tried, one had a dead battery.

the phones were mostly dummy models, although they did have a couple that did work. one of the imacs was not paired with its mouse so it was non-functional and one of the macbooks had its display set wrong.

overall, not a particularly good score.