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Re: Add to our coffers...

Nashton
SubjectRe: Add to our coffers...
FromNashton
Date08/04/2013 16:41 (08/04/2013 11:41)
Message-ID<ktlp6h$3ro$1@speranza.aioe.org>
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On 8/4/2013 10:18 AM, Lloyd wrote:

Lloyd
In article <ktlho1$g0p$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <nana@na.com> wrote:

Nashton
On 8/3/2013 9:59 AM, Lloyd wrote:

Lloyd
In article <82e8ee24-bca6-40fe-9def-34ad9dafc2fc@googlegroups.com>, KDT <scarface_74@yahoo.com>wrote:

KDT
So other providers like Amazon, Microsoft, Dropbox, and Google don't charge more for extra space?

Lloyd
You're not supposed to notice that! So be careful, you'll upset birdbrain and others of his ilk... :)

Nashton
I expect that utter nutjob KDT to post this nonsense, but you? Have you seen the price delta between Apple and other offerings, fanguuurl? $50/year for 100 GBs rather than $100 for 50 GBs? Plus, Apple's iCloud is a freaking MESS from top to bottom.

Lloyd
I'm sorry but your original posting was bitching about the end of the 1-year free of 20Gb of extra storage, a 1-year deal that was then extended to a 2nd year.

And you went on to comment that that the fact that other providers don't charge for extra space is something I purposefully left out.

That was a great deal for those of us that switched from MobileMe.

You mean a great deal for those of you who were forced to switch to iCloud from mobile me, from iDisk and the list goes on.

If you'd like to discuss the value of iCloud other than the freebie, then you should have started a new thread on it.

Excuse me for breathing. If it wasn't "appropriate* in this particular thread, you should have abstained from your snaky remarks.

Actually I'm surprised you didn't as you are very much into bitch-a-thons these days... :)

Just pointing out the extent to which I catch you and your ilk lying about how macs just work...my ass.

I haven't checked the pricing of the various cloud services since I don't have a need for more cloud storage.

So because you have no need for it, problem solved you self-centered Apple apologist?

And no, iCloud is not a mess

from top to bottom, it is very well defined as to what it is and isn't. That you couldn't figure that out says more about your reading comprehension skills than anything else.

iCloud has been decried as a bloody mess from many who bothered to use the kludge and was insecure from the get go, given how many hackers hacked into it what with Apple's laissez faire attitude about security. When Goggle had a 2 step process for verification, Apple with it's 1 step had its ass handed to them by hacker multiple times. Here's some more, because I won't let you get away with the lazy fangurl excuse that there is something wrong with my reading comprehension skills.

Multiple passwords issue: http://www.wired.com/business/2011/09/apple-icloud-sync-mess/

Outlook problems http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/icloud-and-outlook-problems/

And one that sums up my experience with the mess:

"iCloud feels a lot like Apple’s failed Mobile Me with a new au courant name. There's a lot of "Me" left in iCloud. The iCloud email address I had to create to backup my Notes was @me.com, and the email confirming my additional iCloud storage purchase came from no_reply@me.com. Good old, screw you and we don't want to hear from you "no_reply". iCloud also brings back memories of the very first iPhone and the way it and iTunes awkwardly and very messily synched with Outlook."

"I just turned off iCloud sync on my iPhone and iPad. Why? Extremely bad design! Steve Jobs, where are you when we need you?"

What a freaking whiner!

http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/apple-icloud-failure-ipad,1-112.html

"For me, the main use of iCloud is the simple task of getting contacts, calendars, and bookmarks to sync across devices. It should be iCloud’s bread and butter. It should “just work,” and for some, it apparently does.

Not for me, though.

I have contacts going missing on some devices, and I have contacts duplicated on others. I have phone numbers that I change in one contact getting copied over, but the email address I changed in the same contact refuses to make the jump.

Calendar? I’ll give Apple a point there, because is actually seems to work. One out of three ain’t bad.

Safari bookmarks are the most infuriating part of the whole thing, and it should theoretically be the easiest to get right."

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/10/20/icloud-gets-cloudy/

Now let's talk space. Here's what I have now and will have in the future with what I know at this point. Note that all cloud services can and do change things when they want to.

1. iCloud = 25Gb today, 5Gb in September. All free. In my case that is more than enough.

I thought I was supposed to start a new thread.

2. Skydrive = 27Gb today and future. All free. Much more than I need, but it is very good for general storage. I got this much space grandfathered in from something I was doing, don't remember what.

3. SugarSync = 5Gb today and future according to them. Good syncing and is more than I need from them.

4. GoogleDrive(?) = 5Gb I think. I got it somewhere along the line and haven't used it.

The above is garbage and you know it. It does not address the issue of Apple quasi forcing you to buy more space once your hooked on the "service" and it certainly doesn't address the fact that it is far more expensive than other services. Or, was I supposed to start a new thread?

With the way things have been for cloud space, all these could disappear at any time. Which is one of the reasons that I have the following to ensure my critical and other data is backed up :

Oh pulease!

1. Time Capsule for Time Machine - dead simple and automagic!

Irrelevant gobbledegook. Time machine is not and should not be part of a sound backup strategy for anything.

2. Ext Hard Drive using SuperDuper! on a periodic basis

Sorry, the purpose of cloud services is mainly access from multiple points, backup is not even part of the picture what with caps coming into effect.

3. USB stick for critical data only that is kept off-site.

Oh what a load of crap!

Lloyd (14m)