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Re: The Most Advanced OS of...

Alan Baker
SubjectRe: The Most Advanced OS of the World...
FromAlan Baker
Date05/04/2013 06:06 (05/03/2013 21:06)
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FollowupsLaszlo Lebrun (2h & 21m) > Alan Baker

In article <km0u3p$m20$1@tota-refugium.de>, Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@laszlomail.com>wrote:

Laszlo Lebrun
On 03.05.2013 18:39, Alan Baker wrote:

Alan Baker
Imagine that: the application gains new and better features with the passage of time. And using the Search box is quite intuitive to those who use Macs, Laszlo.

Laszlo Lebrun
Using "search", when I just want to "hide already read mails"? You call that intuitive?

Sure. Search/filter... ...whatever.

Alan Baker
Since it is in virtually every application that can display multiple items, be they emails, files, pages, one quickly learns that the advanced searching in Mac OS X is something you should at least try.

Laszlo Lebrun
The sort on status does not sort unread, as of Version 4.2.

Sorting is not the focus, we are on hiding already read messages.

And it matters whether you actually HIDE the read messages rather than have them sort in the list AFTER the unread ones?

Alan Baker
Again: software is improved with successive versions. This is unsurprising.

Laszlo Lebrun
Experience tell sometimes the opposite, especially with Apple software. but also Microsoft and Canonical.

Really? Give some examples.

On pretty much every other decent Mail software, you just select -as expected- "unread" in the view menu and it will filter the read messages right out of the original folders. Finito!

Alan Baker
And in Mac Mail 5.3 (my version) it's also on the menu:

View:Sort By:Unread

Which is almost precisely how Thunderbird 17.0.5 does it, BTW. (View:Sort by:Read)

Laszlo Lebrun
Sorting is not the focus, we are on hiding already read messages.

There isn't a big enough functional difference to matter.

Finally & to add to a totally perfect confusion: from the menu, the "smart folders" are called "smart mailboxes"?

Alan Baker
In what way is that confusion? Where are they called anything else?

Laszlo Lebrun
Sandman and the OP called them exclusively smart folders, so logically one would in the help search for "smart folders", which returns nothing since Apple call them "smart mailboxes".

What Sandman or the OP called them is irrelevant to the fact that the actual SOFTWARE only calls them "smart mailboxes".

Which -with permission- isn't really an appropriate designation for an own alternate representation of existing data from an external mailbox. I suppose some lawyer interacted here and Apple were not ready to pay license fees?

What are you talking about? It's a perfect suitable name. They are smart mailboxes in the sense that their contents don't need to be manually controlled, but rather are automatically generated by one or more filtering criteria.

-- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."