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SubjectRe: Asus shows an updated Transformer Prime & beats Apple to the punch w/higher res HD display
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Date01/12/2012 01:49 (01/11/2012 19:49)
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On 1/11/2012 6:30 AM, -hh wrote:

-hh
Flint<age...@section31.org>wrote:

flint
On 1/10/2012 3:49 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

Alan Baker
I love the way you guys try and pretend that the iPad isn't creaming the competition by segmenting the market.

You know what is competing with those 7" tablets?

The iPAD!

It is outselling every other tablet... ...combined.

Aside to Alan:

Will this be sustainable? I seriously doubt it. Apple was first to market, and has enjoyed a two year lead on everyone else, granted. But they've hardly 'locked it up', especially since Windows 8 hasn't hit yet, and looks to become a more cohesive OS ecosystem strategy out of the gate than OS X/iOS. IOW, the real competition in tablet space hasn't even really begun yet.

flint
Segmenting a market is valid, so, where is the Apple 7" iPad then? When will Apple introduce a 7" tablet? The 7" tablet sales have been ramping up since the median price point for them finally broke $300. Where is Apple's sub-$300 iPad? Or<$250? Or<$200 for that matter.

-hh
So by which means is your marketplace segment being defined: is it by size, or is it by price?

Your choice, pick one... either one.

flint
Oh, wait... that's right... *nowhere*

-hh
Can't say that until you make definitive the modality of the segmentation.

'modality of the segmentation'?

flint
Meanwhile, Android tablet sales are increasing, with Asus' Transformer Prime a strong #2 in sales, and climbing - and the Win8 tablets haven't even hit yet.

-hh
Sorry for my confusion, but wasn't it just last week that the claim was something like that the #2 slot was held the Kindle Fire?

In tablet space in general, perhaps. I haven't seen actual sales figures for the Kindle, have you? In 10" tablet space, Asus is easily #2, however. But if you're taking tablet space in toto, are you trying to say 7" = 10" now? Although I know a lot of guys would like their women to believe that, comparing Apple's iPad to a 7" tablet just makes as little sense as comparing notebooks to desktops.

Apples -oranges :)

Besides, technically, it's the #1 tablet in the 7" tablet space (for the moment), but somehow I think Asus is going to upset that cart. Their track record so far in tablet space (in general) is pretty respectable.

Until then, Apple has no entry in 7" tablet space - >that's< the significant factor, regardless of its current iPad sales. In fact, I suspect, ultrabook sales might just have an impact on iPad sales just as iPads killed netbooks. If anything, i suspect 10" tablet sales are more likely to be impacted before 7" due to a marked dissimilarity in form factors/functionality. Apple would do well to provide something in the 6"-7" range, and do an ipod product line speciation redux in tablet space.

My initial questioning of them doing so was more of a statement that they may not >want< to, not necessarilly that they >can't<. But then again, if Amazon and Asus can hit a <$250 price point, I don't see why Apple couldn't do the same... IF they WANTED to, that is.

-hh

-- MFB

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