Subject | Re: mac sales down |
From | ZnU |
Date | 05/16/2008 20:56 (05/16/2008 14:56) |
Message-ID | <znu-674B86.14562616052008@news.individual.net> |
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Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
Follows | Steve Carroll |
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Steve CarrollPlease read above. Mayor didn't appear to be talking specifically about the Mac mini. He was making a general argument that it's unfair to do price comparisons by using Mac configurations as a baseline and configuring Wintel machines to match as closely as possible. I pointed out that the alternative, inventing purely hypothetical use cases and configuring systems around those, was ever screwier. His response is that we don't need to invent such hypothetical use cases, because buying patterns within the market already tell us precisely what systems are more suitable for users.
In article <znu-B6A010.01085916052008@news.individual.net>, ZnU <znu@fake.invalid>wrote:ZnUSteve Carroll
In article <2jcn24t8jbku7pnal9dg503ccbf1u5tovu@4ax.com>, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com>wrote:Mayor Of R'lyehZnU
On Mon, 12 May 2008 02:38:52 -0400, ZnU <znu@fake.invalid>wrote:ZnUMayor Of R'lyeh
In article <sckf24l7di9alnaoqgob99f28kiec8l9kb@4ax.com>, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com>wrote:Mayor Of R'lyehZnU
On Sun, 11 May 2008 23:59:36 -0500, Chance Furlong <t-bone@megakatcity.com>wrote:Chance FurlongMayor Of R'lyeh
In article <rfhf24teh4oktrgobjans1hdr73g1unq7g@4ax.com>, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com>wrote:Mayor Of R'lyeh
On Sun, 11 May 2008 22:12:47 -0600, Warchild <bob@bob.com> wrote:Chance FurlongWarchildMayor Of R'lyeh
That old horseshoe has been disproved time and time again.
Only when artificially skewed in the Mac's favor.
How is it artificially skewed in the Mac's favor? I ask for in formation only.
The most glaring example of that is the insistence of using the Mac as the baseline instead of the user's wants and/or needs.
Doing a cost comparison based on some hypothetical user's needs is useless in an advocacy group, though, because one can trivially define the user's needs to make the Mac look bad. For instance, insist that the user needs a particular graphics card only available in a high-end tower on the Mac side, but that can be tossed into a free slot on an $800 Windows tower, and then screech about how the Mac costs 5x as much, ignoring the fact that it's a vastly more powerful machine in every other way.
Actually we don't need to do that. Sales figures do that for us.
Only in some right-wing fantasy world where all market participants have perfect information and make perfect choices. In the real world, markets don't always produce the best possible outcome.
"right-wing fantasy world"? LOL! The "outcome" being produced in this "real world" market is what it is and the Mini is tanking in that market!