Google| Subject | Re: mac sales down |
| From | Mayor Of R'lyeh |
| Date | 05/16/2008 07:47 (05/16/2008 01:47) |
| Message-ID | <dm7q24t5tf1smvep5321gtkc8oekl4vr1u@4ax.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Follows | ZnU |
On Fri, 16 May 2008 01:08:59 -0400, ZnU <znu@fake.invalid>wrote:
ZnUWhatever excuse you want to make, the fact remains that the Mini ain't moving. And if you'll note my 'right wing fantasy' is reality while your vision is some utopian world where everyone knows everything about everything they want to buy. And you call me deluded? I prefer to deal with things as they are instead of whining that 'its not fair because the world isn't a perfect place!'
In article <2jcn24t8jbku7pnal9dg503ccbf1u5tovu@4ax.com>, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com>wrote:Mayor Of R'lyehZnU
On Mon, 12 May 2008 02:38:52 -0400, ZnU <znu@fake.invalid>wrote:ZnUMayor Of R'lyeh
In article <sckf24l7di9alnaoqgob99f28kiec8l9kb@4ax.com>, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com>wrote:Mayor Of R'lyehZnU
On Sun, 11 May 2008 23:59:36 -0500, Chance Furlong <t-bone@megakatcity.com>wrote:Chance FurlongMayor Of R'lyeh
In article <rfhf24teh4oktrgobjans1hdr73g1unq7g@4ax.com>, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com>wrote:Mayor Of R'lyeh
On Sun, 11 May 2008 22:12:47 -0600, Warchild <bob@bob.com> wrote:Chance FurlongWarchildMayor Of R'lyeh
That old horseshoe has been disproved time and time again.
Only when artificially skewed in the Mac's favor.
How is it artificially skewed in the Mac's favor? I ask for in formation only.
The most glaring example of that is the insistence of using the Mac as the baseline instead of the user's wants and/or needs.
Doing a cost comparison based on some hypothetical user's needs is useless in an advocacy group, though, because one can trivially define the user's needs to make the Mac look bad. For instance, insist that the user needs a particular graphics card only available in a high-end tower on the Mac side, but that can be tossed into a free slot on an $800 Windows tower, and then screech about how the Mac costs 5x as much, ignoring the fact that it's a vastly more powerful machine in every other way.
Actually we don't need to do that. Sales figures do that for us.
Only in some right-wing fantasy world where all market participants have perfect information and make perfect choices. In the real world, markets don't always produce the best possible outcome.
Which is hardly what I'm doing so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up.Mayor Of R'lyehZnU
And there's no need to use hypotheticals. We all know that most people just don't do anything very intense with their computers. There's no need to require certain models of graphics cards.
Yet it's fairly common game in this newsgroup to come up with some obscure requirement the Mac can't fulfill and then claim it's not a serious computer as a result.
[snip]Its more widespread than you're willing to admit. There's a reason big box marketers like Best Buy and Wal-Mart sell computer parts and it isn't because they think they look good sitting on the shelves.ZnUand thus, while this argument might be compelling for certain individual users, it's largely irrelevant to the subject of which platform is better overall, the main focus of advocacy discussions.Mayor Of R'lyeh
Whether or not most people avail themselves of an advantage it still remains an advantage.
But given its limited applicability, not one that should get nearly as much attention as it does in advocacy groups.
05/08/2008
