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Re: mac sales down

George Graves
SubjectRe: mac sales down
FromGeorge Graves
Date05/12/2008 21:38 (05/12/2008 12:38)
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On Sun, 11 May 2008 23:23:00 -0700, ZnU wrote (in article <znu-12A819.02230012052008@news.individual.net>):

ZnU
In article <hdif24d93f2kfp7orjlu0jqm86pvn9sv5b@4ax.com>, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com>wrote:

Mayor Of R'lyeh
On Mon, 12 May 2008 00:33:16 -0400, ZnU <znu@fake.invalid>wrote:

ZnU
In article <c4ff24118noq8u1folg89ukigeq1m6e7nq@4ax.com>, Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com>wrote:

Mayor Of R'lyeh
On Sun, 11 May 2008 23:03:34 -0400, ZnU <znu@fake.invalid>wrote:

ZnU
In article <GHKVj.2487$ah4.231@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com>, "John Slade" <hhitman86@pacbell.net>wrote:

John Slade
The reason why OS X market share will remain small is becaue Apple only wants to make it for a tiny segment of the computer market. That being the Mac. If it was available to every other PC, it might catch on and more companies would write software for it. As it is now, it's just a niche OS.

ZnU
I've asked this question quite a lot previously, but I'll ask it again:

Precisely what is supposed to be so much more compelling about OS X on, for instance, a Dell, vs. OS X on a Mac?

Mayor Of R'lyeh
The price of the HW...duh!

ZnU
OK, but as I've also mentioned many times before, it would be far easier for Apple to get OS X on cheaper machines by simply offering cheaper Macs than by attempting to support a substantial fraction of the hardware out there in the generic x86 world.

Mayor Of R'lyeh
I think the desire for MacOS X on generic HW largely stems from the realization that Apple isn't going to do that.

ZnU
Apple is more likely to ship cheaper Macs than to officially offer OS X for non-Apple hardware, so that doesn't make much sense.

I rather suspect most people who call for OS X on generic x86 hardware just haven't considered the logistics of supporting generic hardware vs. simply selling cheaper Macs. The rest are simply people who believe multi-vendor hardware platforms are inherently good, usually for some reason that isn't relevant to most users or to current market conditions.

You're right. It would cost them a lot more to support OSX on generic Winboxes than it would probably cost them to make a really cheap Mac (and even sell it as a loss-leader). But I don't see them ever doing that, either. Its just not Apple's style and let's face it, they don't have to despite our resident Windroids' protestations to the contrary. But, certainly they could if they wanted to. Look at the Apple TV. Its "almost" a complete computer with HDD and memory, and it sells for less than US$250.

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